What distance hits are you getting with 2moa Aimpoints?

[Alaskapopo]

Hey you're MORE than welcome to join anytime if you think I'm talkin shit.

You're not the first person

You're right that is what I thought when I read your post. 300 yards fine easy enough. 600 and 800 yards is another matter.
Pat

[shootist~]

Taking multiple shots to walk in a target at long range does not count. I've seen that done at 700 meters with 7.62x39 and 458 (or some big-ass African caliber). Big deal.

First time hits on 18" steel at 300 Meters with 2 MOA, or 4 MOA or 3.6 MOA Micro is fairly easy from a 200M zero. And about as easy with one as the other with good vision.

At that range you are centering the dot on the top edge (more or less depending on ammo and barrel length), so the target is very visible. At 400M it's just guess work since they don't have a suitable reticle or BDC. If you have a known hold point, it could be done.

If you have a 2 MOA gun, you can shoot 2 MOA groups so long as the target is appropriate for the dot. A bullseye that is a little larger than the substention of the dot works well.

Here is a sub 1.5", 100 Yd group from a 2 MOA FAL using a Comp ML3:

[Belmont31R]

Hey you're MORE than welcome to join anytime if you think I'm talkin shit.

You're not the first person

Im not going to call someone a liar without proof.


However...Ive shot quite a bit from 100-750 yards and some 1k yard stuff.

At 750 yards, with irons, you would not be able to spot your own shots, and depending on the wind you wouldn't even be able to hear the steel being hit with normal ear plugs. You wouldn't even be able to see the steel jingle on the chains with a 223/556. Ive shot gongs at that distance with a 556 using a 12X scope and they barely move.

I have shot to 250 quite a bit with Aimpoints and irons. My range goes 50, 100, 250, 500, 750, and 1k. Its pretty easy to hit even a LaRue target at 250 with an Aimpoint which Im guessing is harder than a full man sized steel at 300. Its a bit harder with irons for me but Im still about 75-80% on LaRue's at that range. Keep in mind Im shooting fairly quick and not taking a ton of time between shots.

Out to 500 Ive shot with Aimpoints not a lot but a fair amount. Im probably 30% at that range after getting an aiming point. A 4MOA dot will be 20.5" across at that range which basically covers up the target if you hold dead on...but if you get your hold point its pretty easy to not put the dot in the right spot because you're aiming at dirt that all looks at the same at 500 yards. Keep in mind Im not taking a minute between shots and wearing a shooting jacket.

Out to 750 yards, where I shoot, with LaRue targets I would pay someone $100 on the spot if they got a first round hit with an aimpoint, and $200 with irons. No walking shots in. Just sit down and first shot of the day at 750 yards.

Checking out KAC app on my phone, which is tuned with actual results Ive gotten at the range with the loads I use, would have a 750 yard shot being 211" low and 152" to either side depending on wind direction with a 15MPH wind at 3 O'Clock. If someone can make that shot, first time, with an Aimpoint or irons as I said I would pay them.

So while Im not calling you a liar I am skeptical of anyone getting regular 600-800 yard hits with either an Aimpoint or irons. Ill just leave it at that.

[BCmJUnKie]

Thanks for not calling me a liar

You're absolutely right.mit takes 2 to 3shots for me to walk it in.

I can't got to the range, sit down and hit at that distance.

I didn't know that was part of what the OP asked and I honestly didn't think it mattered.

I can make a video, I really don't know how else to prove it.

I really wasn't tryin to start anything by stating what I was shooting at.

[buckjay]

I'd love to see a video of an Aimpoint shooting 600-800 yards. Even walking it in, I be very surprised to see you walk it in with "2-3 shots".

[BCmJUnKie]

Okay....

[St.Michael]

With all the shit I have seen people do I doubt that it would be hard for someone to be able to tap steel at 600 yards with an aimpoint. I don't doubt for a second someone could hit a man sized target with an aimpoint at 600

[St.Michael]

I'd love to see a video of an Aimpoint shooting 600-800 yards. Even walking it in, I be very surprised to see you walk it in with "2-3 shots".

Why would it matter if someone had to walk it in? The question did not ask "What distance hits are you getting with aimpoints cold bore" So if it has to be walked it shouldn't matter.

[thopkins22]

There's a great story I heard from my friend who picked it up in a class taught by a SEAL. I'm not saying the name because I'm not sure which class it was in and don't want to attribute a story to the wrong guy.

Everyone on his team was asked at what distance they could guarantee a head shot no matter what the conditions were. Some guys said 200 yards, some guys said 300 yards, some even farther. A veteran sniper said 100 yards to some odd looks. They then had to actually prove it. Those that succeeded stayed, and those that failed went back to square 1 off of the team. Lots of guys didn't stay...guys that can likely shoot circles around most folks on this board.

Forgive me if the details are off...but the point is sound. I can walk a .22lr with irons onto a piece of steel at 900 yards...that's irrelevant to what I'm actually capable of with it.

[jhs1969]

There's a great story I heard from my friend who picked it up in a class taught by a SEAL. I'm not saying the name because I'm not sure which class it was in and don't want to attribute a story to the wrong guy.

Everyone on his team was asked at what distance they could guarantee a head shot no matter what the conditions were. Some guys said 200 yards, some guys said 300 yards, some even farther. A veteran sniper said 100 yards to some odd looks. They then had to actually prove it. Those that succeeded stayed, and those that failed went back to square 1 off of the team. Lots of guys didn't stay...guys that can likely shoot circles around most folks on this board.

Forgive me if the details are off...but the point is sound. I can walk a .22lr with irons onto a piece of steel at 900 yards...that's irrelevant to what I'm actually capable of with it.

Good point, I've been in the field enough to know that accuracy on the square range does not translate very well in the field.