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    For my first gun I built the lower and bought a complete upper. If you are looking to build and are newer to the game then I would encourage you to go that route. BCM sells solid mostly assembled uppers and are a good place to start. For assembling your lower half there is a great set of videos on Brownels that can walk you through it all.

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    I know the idea of building your first ever AR may sound more appealing to you, but unless you are a gunsmith or well versed with the AR platform it is not the way to go. Many people have advised that you buy a complete quality rifle rather than build your first AR. The "opinions" of these people should not be taken lightly. They know what they are talking about. You will end up with more than one AR I promise. This hobby is like crack and one smoke wont keep you happy. Buy your first AR, something quality. Then when you want another and decide to build it, you already know what real quality is and have something to strive for with your build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t42beal13t View Post
    I would avoid the magpul rear BUIS and lean towards a Matech. They lock p nicely, have a great sight picture and are a small, durable package. For the front I've always had a FSB so I can't really help you there.
    Yeah, I've used the Matech in training and a bit in the field. I just wish that the inside of the dish/cup/divot/whatever you want to call it was more of a matte finish. Maybe it was just mine, but the glossy finish and the way the light hit it and reflected off at certain angles bothered me quite a bit a times. Is there a reason that you recommend avoiding the magpul, or is it just more that you recommend the Matech over the Magpul?

    Quote Originally Posted by 60buckscash View Post
    For my first gun I built the lower and bought a complete upper. If you are looking to build and are newer to the game then I would encourage you to go that route. BCM sells solid mostly assembled uppers and are a good place to start. For assembling your lower half there is a great set of videos on Brownels that can walk you through it all.
    I've been considering that. The most hesitant part of taking the plunge for the build is things related to the upper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Colt 6920 View Post
    I know the idea of building your first ever AR may sound more appealing to you, but unless you are a gunsmith or well versed with the AR platform it is not the way to go. Many people have advised that you buy a complete quality rifle rather than build your first AR. The "opinions" of these people should not be taken lightly. They know what they are talking about. You will end up with more than one AR I promise. This hobby is like crack and one smoke wont keep you happy. Buy your first AR, something quality. Then when you want another and decide to build it, you already know what real quality is and have something to strive for with your build.
    I appreciate the input, and it may be the route I go. I'm leaving most of the options on the table at this point. Whatever I do, it's not going to be tomorrow. I still have a ton of reading to do. I know that building an AR is the riskier route and that it's advised not to do it with your first one. That advice definitely isn't falling on deaf ears. I respect the knowledge of the members here and am taking it to heart. When you say that I will end up with more than one AR, I can only hope. But it's unlikely for me as my wife doesn't see the need for multiple guns, doesn't view guns as a hobby/sport, and doesn't see any need for an AR for home defense. It's taken me 5 years to convince her that I'm getting another gun. She didn't grow up with them, doesn't like them a whole lot or feel comfortable with them, and pretty much refuses to take any courses involving them. But I digress.....
    Because of that this will most likely be my only AR, at least for a long while. I will continue searching around here and taking in advice and input and make my decision when the time is right. Thanks again.
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    The Matechs I own aren't shiny. I wouldn't really want to use something for iron sights made of plastic.

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    If you're on a budget, building is a contradiction...That is unless you have access to all the numerous tools to do the build. I would suggest buying a BCM blem lower from G&R Tactical and the upper/bolt/charging handle of your choice from G&R or BravoCompanyUSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ball29 View Post
    If you're on a budget, building is a contradiction...That is unless you have access to all the numerous tools to do the build. I would suggest buying a BCM blem lower from G&R Tactical and the upper/bolt/charging handle of your choice from G&R or BravoCompanyUSA.
    I agree that it does seem that way. I have been looking at the blems on both of those sites. The main benefit with building is that I can buy certain parts at different times when money allows. I know in the same regard I can just save that same money and purchase a complete rifle at that point. The other benefit is that I can add the parts that I want instead of having to change them at a later time and hearing from the wife "your gun already has a stock/grip/handguards, etc". I already go through this with my motorcycle everytime, ie "your bike already has exhaust, why do you need a new one?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealthscrapE View Post
    I agree that it does seem that way. I have been looking at the blems on both of those sites. The main benefit with building is that I can buy certain parts at different times when money allows. I know in the same regard I can just save that same money and purchase a complete rifle at that point. The other benefit is that I can add the parts that I want instead of having to change them at a later time and hearing from the wife "your gun already has a stock/grip/handguards, etc". I already go through this with my motorcycle everytime, ie "your bike already has exhaust, why do you need a new one?"
    I understand what your saying however, the way I suggested isn't far off from building a complete rifle. If you order the BCM blem lower the only parts you usually replace are the stock, pistol grip, and the trigger (it comes with the Magpul enhanced trigger guard.) If you want to replace them, take them off in the parking lot of your local FFL...the wife will never know.

    As for a bare bones upper, the only parts that you'd normally want to change are a fsb/gas block and a muzzle device. The BCG and the Charging handle are purchased separately so there's nothing to upgrade there.

    All in all there's not much difference at all. If you chooses to go this route, order the blem lower first...pick it up from your FFL. Next up is the naked upper. The rest can be ordered part by part same as if you were to build. By the time you've completed your rifle the only things you will have replaced will likely be the A2 grip and the M4 Stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ball29 View Post
    I understand what your saying however, the way I suggested isn't far off from building a complete rifle. If you order the BCM blem lower the only parts you usually replace are the stock, pistol grip, and the trigger (it comes with the Magpul enhanced trigger guard.) If you want to replace them, take them off in the parking lot of your local FFL...the wife will never know.

    As for a bare bones upper, the only parts that you'd normally want to change are a fsb/gas block and a muzzle device. The BCG and the Charging handle are purchased separately so there's nothing to upgrade there.

    All in all there's not much difference at all. If you chooses to go this route, order the blem lower first...pick it up from your FFL. Next up is the naked upper. The rest can be ordered part by part same as if you were to build. By the time you've completed your rifle the only things you will have replaced will likely be the A2 grip and the M4 Stock.
    Good info. Thank you. I will take a good look at going that route. Appreciate all of the input I've gotten here so far. As well as all of the info I'm still learning every hour it seems like just browsing through the site.

    Quote Originally Posted by 8ball29 View Post
    If you want to replace them, take them off in the parking lot of your local FFL...the wife will never know.

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    I bought a BCM blem lower and the money saved allowed me to buy a cold hammer forged upper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locutus View Post
    I bought a BCM blem lower and the money saved allowed me to buy a cold hammer forged upper.
    I bought a lightly used Noveske lower from the EE and saved a lot as well. Shop around and it'll pay off.

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