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    [QUOTE=#sand;1256199]I didn't see where they designated what they mean by "stronger" - hardness? Modulus of elasticity?

    Also, from their site, their "lifetime warranty" contains the dreaded words "Lifetime warranty against any manufacturer defects when used as directed". I have to wonder what company policy determines what a "manufaacturers defect" is and what "used as directed" involves, other than just shooting.


    I agree with your statement, but i'll play a little devil's advocate here:
    You own the company that makes these polymer receivers, and your warranty just states "lifetime warranty", no question asked. Someone brings one receiver back, broken in pieces, and says "well, i was prying some landscaping boulders with it, and it broke, so I want my new one. " you would probably ask "are you serious???" and the person would say -"yep, lifetime warranty, pal".

    I am sure they can turn around and find "unauthorized use" in any incident, but I guess it's how you determine the integrity of the company, and reputation will spread. I just purchased one myself, seems to be pretty solid for a polymer, but IF it fails, it will probably be around the receiver extension threads, as it appears to be the weakest part.

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    New Frontier came on The High Road looking for folks to test their new polymer lower
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=628545

    I sent them a PM and told them I'd be willing to test one out and even pay for the lower myself. I also told them I'd run it next to my PSA carbine, would give it an honest shake down and report the results good & bad and if any problems did crop up, I'd give them a chance to fix it before making a public posting. I let them know I'd also be sharing what I found here on this site.

    New Frontier put out the word they'd be contacting those they felt would fit the profile of the customer they were looking for. The kind of customer the wanted was the casual shooter, but they also maitained that their polymer lowers would be as durable as a 7075 forging. I heard nothing from them, not that I expected to.

    Can anyone post actual pictures of broken NF polymer lowers?
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    Is there a reason they are using polymer internals?? Other than weight savings I am not sure I would want the working parts inside the lower to be made if these.
    If the insides were normal trigger parts I might be interested in playing with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victor3ranger View Post
    Is there a reason they are using polymer internals?? Other than weight savings I am not sure I would want the working parts inside the lower to be made if these.
    If the insides were normal trigger parts I might be interested in playing with one.
    This is due to cost and weight. It'd be near impossible to get a complete 6pos lower for $100 retail unless the company was literally 100% vertically integrated and made 100% of the product in-house, insanely efficient. Most standard LPK's retail for ~$55-$65 and butt stock kits for ~$45-$60, not including the lower receiver cost.

    There are stripped polymer lowers of course, which one could build up however one wanted.
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    I think I'm going to buy one of these. All of my lowers are on the other side of the country and it's cheaper for me to just get a cheap lower like this than fly over there to get them.

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    I guess my next question is this, if someone had one of these and already had a standard small parts kit and internals would they fit in one of these lowers??

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    Quote Originally Posted by victor3ranger View Post
    I guess my next question is this, if someone had one of these and already had a standard small parts kit and internals would they fit in one of these lowers??
    The lowers are identical to a standard mil spec forged lower except for material and integral trigger guard. The fire control group & safety is proprietary and will only work with their own parts. If you swap out the FCG for an aftermarket FCG then you'd need to swap the safety as well. Otherwise, the safety, bolt catch, mag release, etc is interchangeable with any other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    New Frontier came on The High Road looking for folks to test their new polymer lower
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=628545

    I sent them a PM and told them I'd be willing to test one out and even pay for the lower myself. I also told them I'd run it next to my PSA carbine, would give it an honest shake down and report the results good & bad and if any problems did crop up, I'd give them a chance to fix it before making a public posting. I let them know I'd also be sharing what I found here on this site.

    New Frontier put out the word they'd be contacting those they felt would fit the profile of the customer they were looking for. The kind of customer the wanted was the casual shooter, but they also maitained that their polymer lowers would be as durable as a 7075 forging. I heard nothing from them, not that I expected to.

    Can anyone post actual pictures of broken NF polymer lowers?
    I doubt they will ever get back to you either. I would be interested in your findings. Though I don't think they would fare well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endur View Post
    I doubt they will ever get back to you either. I would be interested in your findings. Though I don't think they would fare well..
    There are over 10,000 of them already produced and in the hands of consumers in just a handful of months. There are quite a few of them out there being tested now, and reviews are generally very positive. One of our customers from AK left this review:

    Quote Originally Posted by Will from Valdez, AK
    Withstood cold well. Spent 3 hrs laying in snow at -3, had to break all the moving parts free of ice, twisted it, banged it against a pole, tried to crack anything I could(including fcg) and nothing broke. PMAGS, DPMS and m16 aluminum mags fit no problem.You can FEEL the difference in weight compared to forged.

    Trigger is crisp, almost no creep. I'll be adding a few more of these to my winter arsenal over metal to keep from getting the wet tongue to frozen pole effect.

    Only metal are pins(minus take down pins), springs, buffer tube, buffer, plate and castle nut. Stock has some wobble in it, 2mm side to side and 2 mm front to back. Trigger guard is integrated. JP reduced power springs gives it a consistent 3lb 15oz-4lb pull. Careful not to deform the pin holes, you can create a rim of not lined up perfectly when installing.

    Rear hole will need some wiggling. Give it a light tap first few times and then it'll work itself in. Not perfect but for the price, it's a nice tight fit.
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    To the above post-USGI aluminum mags fit, but do not frop free. I was told that a mag release button change would fix it, if it is an issue.

    JoeBobOutfitters-just purchased one from you-great service, communication with your associate was very helpful.
    Last edited by elchupanibre; 06-03-12 at 22:43.

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