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Thread: Form 1, no engraving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kVon View Post
    I have a friend who is going to help me with an sbr build. I currently have a complete LMT rifle, which I will be using to start the process. I will be purchasing an LMT 10.5" upper when all is approved.

    My buddy works at a gun store and they say with a form 1, I don't need to have the lower engraved because is was purchased as an assembled lower from LMT.

    I know ignorance of the law does not excuse breaking it, so I wanted to ask all of you. Does that sound right?
    Only way that could work is if LMT took the lower back, changed the existing serial number in their books from a rifle to an SBR. I know at least one company that was doing that a while ago, Noveske, but that has ended.

    I called LMT a year or so ago and they said they could do it. It was honestly more of a PITA than I wanted to deal with. LMT was going to have me mail the lower back to them, buy one of their uppers through a local dealer from LMT and have the old lower and new upper transferred to a local class III dealer to take possession of the gun again, doing a transfer and spending that time, money and energy. Orion has the two of my lowers now, they cashed the check yesterday. Once the lowers are back I am sending off two form 1's to Uncle Sam for the wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kVon View Post
    ...My buddy works at a gun store and they say with a form 1, I don't need to have the lower engraved because is was purchased as an assembled lower from LMT...
    This would only be true of the receiver in question was already registered as an SBR by LMT. At which case you would have to submit a Form 4, not a Form 1.
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    Really... and the ****ing moon isn't even full tonight.

    This thread should have been terminated with extreme prejudice 32 posts ago. Why do those with the ability to nip this stupid shit in the ass refuse to do so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK18Pilot View Post
    Really... and the ****ing moon isn't even full tonight.

    This thread should have been terminated with extreme prejudice 32 posts ago. Why do those with the ability to nip this stupid shit in the ass refuse to do so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MK18Pilot View Post
    Really... and the ****ing moon isn't even full tonight.

    This thread should have been terminated with extreme prejudice 32 posts ago. Why do those with the ability to nip this stupid shit in the ass refuse to do so?
    Are you serious? Do you visit this forum at all?

    How many pages did the "Can I use my evil looking AR15 in a home defense shooting or will I go to jail?" thread get to in AR General? 14? 20?

    Even after 80 posts people would still chime in with bullshit like "Oh man, a jury is gonna hammer your ass if you shoot a bad guy with a suppressed AR15!!"
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    If you are not interested in the discussion then drive on. If all you have to add is bitching and moaning I am not sure how you are helping. I've learned a few things in this thread.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    I have too. Thus why I asked. There are letters from the ATF that seem conflicting, which is why I asked for clarification. Regardless, I will engrave to be on the safe side.

    Thank you to all who contributed useful information and opinion. No thanks to those bitching about my post..

    It's not like I'm asking if I should buy a BCM or DD
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    Quote Originally Posted by infidelprodigy View Post
    So all of you who insist on engraving your lowers, did you enter what you engraved in box 4a?
    I insisted on following the law and marked my lowers with the info contained in space 3b.

    4h is for any extraneous markings (PD names, rack numbers, importer marks, gunsmith marks, proof marks) anything that is not required to be on the gun that might confuse someone in a future investigation.

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    If you want to hear it from the horses mouth and what examiners are currently looking for on Form 1s, call Martinsburg, WV, 304-616-4500 and ask for Kennth Mason.
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    I just got my form 1 for correction and i was told i had to engrave my name and city state on it and was told to what to out in box h. This was using a finished lower that already had a manufacturer and serial number.

    Hope this helps.

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