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    I actually agree with you 100%. Even though I have some rude friends who don't like to shoot their suppressors when we go out, I like to shoot mine suppressed and even more so when they join me.

    Since I shoot outdoors 99.9% of the time, I like the fact that my signature is greatly reduced. I always recommend to new friends and associates that they should look at a suppressor if they can afford it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    Can someone tell me exactly how long I have to own a suppressor, use it under varying conditions, itemize both it's strengths and weaknesses, and categorize the opportunity costs associated with it before I can get the "all clear" that the decision I made is backed up by my own firsthand experience and extensive evaluation?

    I can only relate my experience. I can't pretend to speak for every person who feels they "wasted money" or "wasted time" by purchasing a suppressor.

    I've shot indoors and outdoors solo, and with teams, and in every case, shooting suppressed was far superior.

    Again, if you can clear a house with a stock 6920 (16.x" bbl), you can clear a house with a 15.x" suppressed SBR just as well, and communicate better with your spouse, children or teammates.

    I can't account for everyone, but my personal evaluation, over a decade, says that I have not made a mistake, no matter how many internuts try to tell me I did.

    What my personal evaluation and testing tells me, again, over a decade:

    (15" - 8lbs - quiet) > (16" - 7lbs - loud)

    Sorry if anyone, or anyone's friends and loved ones disagree with me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post

    Again, if you can clear a house with a stock 6920 (16.x" bbl), you can clear a house with a 15.x" suppressed SBR just as well, and communicate better with your spouse, children or teammates.
    I'm still having limited second thoughts about going to a 10.5" barrel with the shortest reasonable reflex suppressor - I'm under 16" OABL, and shorter than even my pinned 14.X" units, so if you're willing to make some sacrifices even the length limitation is there - just cost.

    I'm pretty sure the SF Mini on a Mk18 style, or even a micro/M4M on a longer barreled unit if muzzle velocity matters more than sound intensity... I'm with Shivan on it being as simple as if you can afford it, it's worth doing.
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    I only remove the can from my 11.5" 6933 to clean the QD mount area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    When I find the 6920 that allows me to take 5" off the barrel, or 30+dB off the report, with the twist of the wrist, and no paperwork...I'll go that route.

    In almost every situation I've encountered so far, SBR with suppressor fits my uses, and needs, better than long and loud.

    Shooting frangible ammo is the only scenario where it is both imprudent, and unreliable to shoot SBR & suppressor. So take the suppressor off....

    Money: I can always make more. Wish people would stop projecting their lack of budgeting skills on me. I keep hearing the, "You can only buy ammo OR suppressor OR training OR ....". Or you can find a way to do them ALL. Nike, bitches!! Just do it.

    Time: Unless I get the "You're gonna die in a year" speech, I have nothing but time. It's a passive activity once you submit the paperwork, unless you are 'tard.

    Weight: The penalty here is worth the trade-off. But I can drop all the weight with a spin of the wrist. I bet the guys who actually use PEQ's think the weight out front sucks too, but it's use outstrips the weight gain. I feel the same about suppressors. Again, I get huge gains in weight savings though if I choose to twist the can off the carbine. Seems like a net win for modularity.

    Length: I lost 1" over the stock 6920 with my SBR and suppressor, but let's call that "a push" when suppressed. Huge gains though when I stow the can in a pouch, and I lose 5". Seems like a net win for modularity and choice. Add in that there are now shorter cans than my 2006 version, that offer just as much suppression, in a shorter and lighter package.

    Speed: I keep hearing people tell me they are faster with their 16" carbines. I have never, not once ever, heard someone tell me I am shooting too slowly. Or my first shot was under par, or my splits were anywhere near the bottom of the curve. Sure I'm not Bennie Cooley fast, or LAV fast, but what desk jockey that you know actually is that fast? The top 1% of all desk jockeys? Sweet story, bro. Own that shit!

    My nemesis is usually pulling a shot(s) because of bad sight picture and going too fast. Need faster reloads too? Sure that's me. Shooting fast? I got that one covered.
    Amen, brother, Amen

    The "you should not buy a Noveske, but something cheaper and put the $ saved towards ammo and training" comments get old. I will buy a Noveske and still put the same amount of $ toward ammo and training

    I just bought 3 AAC suppressors in one day and I know I will enjoy them
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I'm the odd duck. I find suppressors to be virtually worthless on centerfire rifle calibers. I own a can, and am around people shooting them rather frequently.

    I still have to, or am supposed to, wear hearing protection as the suppressed 5.56 is not hearing safe. So what's the point? I get the priveledge of adding extra weight and length to my gun for... what, exactly?
    My SBR with a HALO cracks about like a .22 and while I won't declare that "hearing safe" it is much nicer to listen to than unsuppressed 5.56mm.

    That is what you are getting, at the cost of extra weight and length. For some it is worth it, for others not as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Fundi View Post
    Amen, brother, Amen

    The "you should not buy a Noveske, but something cheaper and put the $ saved towards ammo and training" comments get old. I will buy a Noveske and still put the same amount of $ toward ammo and training

    I just bought 3 AAC suppressors in one day and I know I will enjoy them
    I made the switch myself after adding up my net investment in firearms - I have so much rolled into this, the cost difference between bargain units and custom Noveske hardware is minimal averaged out over total cost. Same with the suppressor investment - it's still a single digit percentage of expenditures, but absolutely worth the cost for the added enjoyment, and shootability for family members.
    Last edited by TehLlama; 02-26-12 at 16:14.
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    I personally have AAC MB's on both my 10.5" M6A2 and my Sig 556 SBR and run both un-suppressed about 75% of the time. Honestly, I don't mind the concussion force produced by the rifles. Everyone standing near me does though. Maybe I have just gotten used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Fundi View Post
    Amen, brother, Amen

    The "you should not buy a Noveske, but something cheaper and put the $ saved towards ammo and training" comments get old. I will buy a Noveske and still put the same amount of $ toward ammo and training

    I just bought 3 AAC suppressors in one day and I know I will enjoy them
    I also bought a Noveske and am glad I did. It was the 10.5" w/SB and the main reason was that I didn't want to tinker with the weapon to make sure it ran reliably supressed or unsupressed. I guess I took the easy way out. I also purchased the AAC M42K supressor for it. Sure OAL length is about the same as my 14.5" pinned BCM and the extra weight w/Supressor is close to my BCM but this is something I have wanted and not necessarily needed.

    As SHIVAN said more money can always be made. If it does come down to a money issue in the future I just won't purchase or take more time to save up for what I want.

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    I run my 10.5" suppressed about 95% of the time. I'm using the basic KAC NT4 mount with my KAC can.

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