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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman8 View Post
    Says the guy WITH SBR's AND Suppressors AND has over Thirteen THOUSAND posts on "teh internet".....
    yep, learned a lot about what not to do. People miss all the time that I'm not telling anyone to do what I did, I'm telling them not to bother. Money flushed down the toilet... so much money flushed down the toilet... and time wasted. But hey, if you've got money to burn and time to waste, have at it.

    Who you going to ask about fires, the guy that's never been near one or the guy with singed hair?

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    Heaven forbid someone buy something because they "want" it.

    I have a suppressor for my 16" AR and when I use that upper, it's pretty much suppressed all the time. When I shoot my 10.5" it's not as it cannot be in it's current configuration (KX3) and I don't really see the need to change it at this point as it's my primary training rifle and it gets shot a lot.

    Bought a 300BLK because I wanted one. No real reason other than it's short and handy, bigger bullets and I can eventually put a nice can on it as it suppresses well.

    I might even post a picture of it when it's all said and done.

    Not every gun needs to be a super-ninja-50k rounds fired gun.
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    When I find the 6920 that allows me to take 5" off the barrel, or 30+dB off the report, with the twist of the wrist, and no paperwork...I'll go that route.

    In almost every situation I've encountered so far, SBR with suppressor fits my uses, and needs, better than long and loud.

    Shooting frangible ammo is the only scenario where it is both imprudent, and unreliable to shoot SBR & suppressor. So take the suppressor off....

    Money: I can always make more. Wish people would stop projecting their lack of budgeting skills on me. I keep hearing the, "You can only buy ammo OR suppressor OR training OR ....". Or you can find a way to do them ALL. Nike, bitches!! Just do it.

    Time: Unless I get the "You're gonna die in a year" speech, I have nothing but time. It's a passive activity once you submit the paperwork, unless you are 'tard.

    Weight: The penalty here is worth the trade-off. But I can drop all the weight with a spin of the wrist. I bet the guys who actually use PEQ's think the weight out front sucks too, but it's use outstrips the weight gain. I feel the same about suppressors. Again, I get huge gains in weight savings though if I choose to twist the can off the carbine. Seems like a net win for modularity.

    Length: I lost 1" over the stock 6920 with my SBR and suppressor, but let's call that "a push" when suppressed. Huge gains though when I stow the can in a pouch, and I lose 5". Seems like a net win for modularity and choice. Add in that there are now shorter cans than my 2006 version, that offer just as much suppression, in a shorter and lighter package.

    Speed: I keep hearing people tell me they are faster with their 16" carbines. I have never, not once ever, heard someone tell me I am shooting too slowly. Or my first shot was under par, or my splits were anywhere near the bottom of the curve. Sure I'm not Bennie Cooley fast, or LAV fast, but what desk jockey that you know actually is that fast? The top 1% of all desk jockeys? Sweet story, bro. Own that shit!

    My nemesis is usually pulling a shot(s) because of bad sight picture and going too fast. Need faster reloads too? Sure that's me. Shooting fast? I got that one covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhurdan View Post
    Heaven forbid someone buy something because they "want" it.

    Not every gun needs to be a super-ninja-50k rounds fired gun.
    I guess I missed where I said anything different.

    In fact, if people would just say that up front we'd all save a lot of wasted time assuming that their dreamt-up fantasy "needs" are actual.

    I got no issue with someone that wants something "just 'cause", but nobody says that. It's all about that "need" to remove 30 dB while clearing their house at 3 AM in their underpants.

    I guess I'm the idiot for taking them at face value.

    again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    When I find the 6920 that allows me to take 5" off the barrel and 30+dB off the report, with the twist of the wrist, and no paperwork, I'll go that route.
    If you find me the suppressed 5.56 SBR that's 5" shorter than the 6920 AND 30 dB quieter, I'll take it. Let's just go ahead and make it <140 dB at the shooter's ear so I can even shoot it without hearing protection.

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    You can't buy this kind of entertainment! Thanks for all the responses. I ordered my block III today and have some suppressor/brake dwelling to do. I'm kind of into the surefire mini that someone mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I guess I missed where I said anything different.

    In fact, if people would just say that up front we'd all save a lot of wasted time assuming that their dreamt-up fantasy "needs" are actual.

    I got no issue with someone that wants something "just 'cause", but nobody says that. It's all about that "need" to remove 30 dB while clearing their house at 3 AM in their underpants.

    I guess I'm the idiot for taking them at face value.

    again.
    Wasn't picking a fight or anything. The fact is the OP HAS something already. He's most likely going to spend money on something else based on what he hears from others. At times, while I believe you are most definitely trying to be helpful, it seems very discouraging.

    That's probably because, as you said, you've been there done that, bought the T-shirt and realized it wasn't worth it, and that's awesome. In this case, the OP is on the path to buy a suppressor. It appears he's already made that decision weather it is thought out or not. Hence why I mentioned this may very well be a "want" issue, not a need issue. With the amount of knowledge you have, you can even help out the "want" folks, if indeed you "want" to do so.

    Wasn't faulting your logic overall, just in cases where people have already made a decision and want the best case scenario. Most likely they aren't going to be receptive to that logic even if it will save them the items on your list. If he'd given a specific "need" for it, totally different.

    *ETA* Rob, in the post you quoted, I was typing it at the same time as your post above mine... if that helps to understand what I said in it. You said "But hey, if you've got money to burn and time to waste, have at it." That may have changed my response, but I'm just re-reading it all now. *
    Last edited by Zhurdan; 02-23-12 at 11:49. Reason: ETA
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    If you find me the suppressed 5.56 SBR that's 5" shorter than the 6920 AND 30 dB quieter, I'll take it. Let's just go ahead and make it <140 dB at the shooter's ear so I can even shoot it without hearing protection.
    You're right, I wrote that poorly in my attempt at brevity. However, I know you're not ****ing retarded, and you knew exactly what I meant.

    I can not make a 6920 barrel 10.3" with the twist of a wrist. It will always be 16.x". Or would be 21" with a suppressor.

    I can not make a 6920 30dB quieter and retain the 16.x" length and weight.

    I can, however, procure something that allows me to have the length of the 6920 and be 30dB quieter. As well as, with the turn of a wrist, be 10.x" long, and far lighter. Giving me superior modularity without the sacrifice of always being the longer 16.x".
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    Let me say, before this gets misconstrued: Everyone must assess their own needs, own budget, and own wants.

    A COLT 6920, nearly bone stock, is a top shelf weapon and very capable. If I lived in a less than free state, or didn't have any way to acquire the cash, I would get a 6920 and all the ammo and training I could afford, and never worry about a suppressor or SBR.

    Those things don't apply to me, so the best combination, for me, was a suppressed SBR.

    The ability to change it to suit what I want, and making minor sacrifices in the process, seemed like a no brainer.

    When someone described their suppressed SBR to me a decade+ ago, I asked, "So you mean it's the same length as this 6920 we're shooting, but quiet?"

    I knew I was in trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I guess I missed where I said anything different.

    In fact, if people would just say that up front we'd all save a lot of wasted time assuming that their dreamt-up fantasy "needs" are actual.

    I got no issue with someone that wants something "just 'cause", but nobody says that. It's all about that "need" to remove 30 dB while clearing their house at 3 AM in their underpants.

    I guess I'm the idiot for taking them at face value.

    again.
    mehhh
    Last edited by Ironman8; 02-24-12 at 21:32.

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