This is what happens when you don't have the TV on and don't get a news feed on your phone or computer. I just happened to look at my watch and noticed Dec. 7 and remembered.
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This is what happens when you don't have the TV on and don't get a news feed on your phone or computer. I just happened to look at my watch and noticed Dec. 7 and remembered.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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Probably the first attempt at "shock and awe" in US history was the Doolittle Raid, intended to be a fast response to Pearl Harbor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid
In my opinion, that fast retaliation sent shockwaves that helped more than any other counterattack to establish that the US would not simply "join the war" with conventional tactics.
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Interesting historical thread on the Pacific war. I don't think it was a clear cut of a strategic lapse. Sure Truk was a good attempt at setting up lines of control and infrastructure.
https://www.realcleardefense.com/art...re_114010.html
The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.
It's that simple.
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That was a good read. Thanks for the link.Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand
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I think the most significant event was Midway, it's where Japan lost the war and it could have gone either way. The Doolittle raid was more of a thumb in the eye to show Japan they weren't as insulated as they believed.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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I looked at a map of Pearl Harbor showing where the various ships were anchored and denoting whether they were sunk, damaged, or unscathed. I spent most of the afternoon and evening googling the various vessels and reading their histories.
Amazing things were done in the aftermath of December 7th. Ships were raised and repaired, some to get underway on war patrols, and others to Puget Sound for rebuilding and modernization.
Reading about the USS Vestal (AR-4) really brought home to me how important every job was in ensuring or victory.
America was staggered, but not beaten.
Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President... - Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln and Free Speech, Metropolitan Magazine, Volume 47, Number 6, May 1918.
Every Communist must grasp the truth. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party Mao Zedong, 6 November, 1938 - speech to the Communist Patry of China's sixth Central Committee
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All true but LUCK was a major factor, had our carriers been at Pearl it might have been a different story. If they were lost at Pearl, Coral Sea or Midway we'd have been in serious trouble. Thankfully Navy code breakers kept us a step ahead before Midway developed and we didn't take the bait in the Aleutians.
That is where Japan lost the war, it just took a lot of Marines and two atomic bombs to make them realize they had lost.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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Last edited by RetroRevolver77; 12-18-18 at 16:29.
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I had a great-grandfather who went to Pearl Harbor for the recovery effort after the attack, he was a steel worker.
One of the greatest days of my life was when I was finally able to go and visit the memorials in person, after reading the books, watching the documentaries and films it was surreal.
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We should never forget the core lesson of Pearl Harbor:
You can still catch an A-Bomb if you get too uppity
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