Why do we eat our own?

[WickedWillis]

Just don’t go on TOS and push back against the shillers *cough I mean site sponsors pushing BS. It ruffles their britches.


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That, and they unleash the rabid fanboys to slander and harass their competition constantly. Another big reason I've been turned off and won't buy a certain Texas company's products anymore. Starts with a La ends with a Rue. However, I will never treat someone like trash for using a manufacturer I don't like, or don't support.

Fanboys of all walks do some of the devil's work on that site though, and go completely unchecked.

[tehpwnag3]

Small Arms Solutions just did a YouTube review of a PSA PA-15, and it seemed to be a GLOWING review from someone who was very critical of the Colt Expanse offering. What struck me was all the comments about "getting more for less", "why pay more for a name?", "just as good as...", etc. etc.

They just don't know the whole story.

[RHINOWSO]

Quite right, TOS is for entertainment, m4c for knowledge. I can only take "but Stroke Industries are cheaper" so many times, it's an insult to be compared to foreign pot metal Gucci ghetto fashion poop makers.

TOS is like bad porn, some mfgs over there forget that when the lights come on, people remember what they were saying and who they've been blowing.

Entertain and enlightening.

[WS6]

I've been into the AR thing only a couple of years now but it's been long enough to note a trend. Seems like the community will have a darling manufacturer and everyone will sell their first born to buy there stuff then like a switch was thrown, people start chucking shade. You see it with everything and some of it has merit but for them most part it seems like high sport and entertainment to build up to tear down. Seems Geissele is the current target but I have seen: EO Tech, Aimpoint, Daniel Defense, Magpul, LaRue, BCM, Surefire, Troy and others take their turn at the stick. Is this a simple issue of competitors shading enough until it takes hold or do we as a community look forward to tearing apart manufacturers?

Geissele: Potentially shady government acquisition practices, suing a marine, massive product mark-up that people are catching onto.
Eotech: Lied to the warfighter and LE and civilian customer. Knowingly falsely represented product.
Aimpoint: Lied about product/Parallax issues.
Daniel Defense: Supported anti-gun-ownership legislature, walked it back hard and fast, but not hard and fast enough.
Magpul: Not sure about this one.
LaRue: Mark LaRue. What else needs saying?
BCM: Not sure about this one.
Surefire: We hate civilians and screw you! was their party line for years. They have really walked it back and are doing better, now.
Troy: Hired Jody Weis

That's about the sum of it. It's not random. It's not arbitrary. It's a response to a total illegal or plain dick move by said company.

[phixion]

TOS

Us vs. Them

We're STILL doing that?

Some of you have your ego way too tied up into this crap.

[Diamondback]

Geissele: Potentially shady government acquisition practices, suing a marine, massive product mark-up that people are catching onto.
Eotech: Lied to the warfighter and LE and civilian customer. Knowingly falsely represented product.
Aimpoint: Lied about product/Parallax issues.
Daniel Defense: Supported anti-gun-ownership legislature, walked it back hard and fast, but not hard and fast enough.
Magpul: Not sure about this one.
LaRue: Mark LaRue. What else needs saying?
BCM: Not sure about this one.
Surefire: We hate civilians and screw you! was their party line for years. They have really walked it back and are doing better, now.
Troy: Hired Jody Weis

That's about the sum of it. It's not random. It's not arbitrary. It's a response to a total illegal or plain dick move by said company.

You missed the Big Kahuna, though not related:
H-S Precision: Hired Murderin' Lon Horiuchi, who should be having to turn tricks in gay bars just to get enough money to feed himself

As for TOS, I knew all I needed to know about them when a particular estranged-for-cause shitbird relative best described as "a pile of toxic shit shoveled into a human skin" glowingly praised them.

[everready73]

Geissele: Potentially shady government acquisition practices, suing a marine, massive product mark-up that people are catching onto.
Eotech: Lied to the warfighter and LE and civilian customer. Knowingly falsely represented product.
Aimpoint: Lied about product/Parallax issues.
Daniel Defense: Supported anti-gun-ownership legislature, walked it back hard and fast, but not hard and fast enough.
Magpul: Not sure about this one.
LaRue: Mark LaRue. What else needs saying?
BCM: Not sure about this one.
Surefire: We hate civilians and screw you! was their party line for years. They have really walked it back and are doing better, now.
Troy: Hired Jody Weis

That's about the sum of it. It's not random. It's not arbitrary. It's a response to a total illegal or plain dick move by said company.

Geissele also said on TOS they would look into the bent rail fiasco. It has been months and not a word. I guess they hope people forget about it. People are also made shoot the mk16/urg being marketed as the next military upper configuration but that didn't seem to be the case from my understanding

Surefire- aside from the civilian thing they were recently outed for contributing to anti 2a politicians. I know business is business and they probably do this to win a gov contact etc but it upset people

BCM- the Magpul m3 lower compatibility thing does exist. I still but s ton of BCM stuff.

BCM seems to be the new whipping boy on TOS. I can't believe some of the stuff people say or where they come up with it. Someone posted a thread about a badly machined BCG and it just ballooned from there

[jpmuscle]

TOS nuking the geissele thread didn’t help matters.




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[rpoL98]

... Is this a simple issue of competitors shading enough until it takes hold or do we as a community look forward to tearing apart manufacturers?

JIMHO, I think this comes from folks being able to hide behind their internet computer screen. We are lot more "courageous" and rude when we can hide behind the computer incognito.

In retrospect, this thread shouldn't be about citing all the known examples, and thereby throwing more gasoline onto the flames, even I provided an observed example, bad on me, but perhaps reflection on forum posting manners and decorum.

otherwise, yes, we eat our own, with glee and relish, it's a buffet free-for-all, unfortunately. maybe it's got something to do with how good manners (and family values?) are no longer a standard in modern society.

hell if I know...

[docsherm]

That, and they unleash the rabid fanboys to slander and harass their competition constantly. Another big reason I've been turned off and won't buy a certain Texas company's products anymore. Starts with a La ends with a Rue. However, I will never treat someone like trash for using a manufacturer I don't like, or don't support.

Fanboys of all walks do some of the devil's work on that site though, and go completely unchecked.

Exactly....... go anywhere and talk the truth about BCM and the fanboy retards will come out of the woodwork.

Simple rule of firearms.... If it works, it works and you don't need to have everyone who is "cool" to pimp you crap.