LeBaron family murdered by Cartel in Mexico.

[WillBrink]

Gonna go with not much considering the high probability of the drunken sailors, their benefactors, and associates benefiting from criminal enterprises. Also a high probability of the "need" for gun control, much like how New York needed the Sullivan Act.

Yes, I don't think many realize just how many are kept employed and or making $ for so many, by the ongoing "war on drugs." To actually "win" it in any real sense of the term, would put a lot people out of work, mean some LE orgs would really have no reason to exist, and require a level of commitment we don't have.

[prepare]

Why are politicians looking the other way on immigration and drugs coming across the border? All that money, some of it’s making it’s way into their pockets.

[Averageman]

You know at this point, I would have a problem sending some CIA, backed by some Spec Op's guys down there to do some just straight up mayhem, kidnapping and extraction.
Add in a few quick cross border strikes by an ACR with some air support and just disrupt the process. Everyone in business has a supply chain, storage and banking just intel those places and boom, there goes the process.
I'm not sure that I care what the Mexican government say's, they are bought and paid for by these guys. If they didn't want a fight, they wouldn't shoot our Citizens and it's pretty hard for me to believe this was an accident when they were gunning down women and kids that had exited the vehicles and were 15 yards away when gunned down.

[prepare]

It’s no accident the US gov doesn’t have control of the border either.

[Outlander Systems]

My dude, they’re some of the biggest drug dealers in the history of drug dealing. It’d be like sending Jefferey Epstein to raid Jimmy Saville’s torture dungeon.

You know at this point, I would have a problem sending some CIA...

[Dr. Bullseye]

Mexico sends us unwanted people and drugs, both poisoning our culture and country. Mexico has always been the enemy. I said this in 2001 with the 9/11 hysteria. We got nothing for the billions flushed down the sewers of NYC and in the meantime you lost California.

Bring all the troops home from foreign countries. Set up a buffer zone 200 miles deep in Northern Mexico. Remove border towns and push them south. No water, no food, no highways, no railroads in that 200 miles. If Mexico gives us any shit, cruise missile them into the Stone Age, the OLD STONE AGE.

No more half measures, no more mr. nice guys, no more placating political correctness. No more worship of our military in foreign campaigns---they can volunteer for that on their own. Regarding our military, it is time to defend this country and anyone not defending this country as ICE, the Border Patrol, and the Coast Guard is doing is not defending this country but instead some other country. Let them give offer "thanks for your service".

[Outlander Systems]

ICE, DHS, HSI, CBP are the real MVPs for sure.

Mexico sends us unwanted people and drugs, both poisoning our culture and country. Mexico has always been the enemy. I said this in 2001 with the 9/11 hysteria. We got nothing for the billions flushed down the sewers of NYC and in the meantime you lost California.

Bring all the troops home from foreign countries. Set up a buffer zone 200 miles deep in Northern Mexico. Remove border towns and push them south. No water, no food, no highways, no railroads in that 200 miles. If Mexico gives us any shit, cruise missile them into the Stone Age, the OLD STONE AGE.

No more half measures, no more mr. nice guys, no more placating political correctness. No more worship of our military in foreign campaigns---they can volunteer for that on their own. Regarding our military, it is time to defend this country and anyone not defending this country as ICE, the Border Patrol, and the Coast Guard is doing is not defending this country but instead some other country. Let them give offer "thanks for your service".

[WillBrink]

Mexico sends us unwanted people and drugs, both poisoning our culture and country. Mexico has always been the enemy. I said this in 2001 with the 9/11 hysteria. We got nothing for the billions flushed down the sewers of NYC and in the meantime you lost California.

Bring all the troops home from foreign countries. Set up a buffer zone 200 miles deep in Northern Mexico. Remove border towns and push them south. No water, no food, no highways, no railroads in that 200 miles. If Mexico gives us any shit, cruise missile them into the Stone Age, the OLD STONE AGE.

No more half measures, no more mr. nice guys, no more placating political correctness. No more worship of our military in foreign campaigns---they can volunteer for that on their own. Regarding our military, it is time to defend this country and anyone not defending this country as ICE, the Border Patrol, and the Coast Guard is doing is not defending this country but instead some other country. Let them give offer "thanks for your service".

Not close to accurate. We didn't lose CA, they did, cuz we took it from them, as we did TX, etc. That being said up to modern times, the border is open because most of them coming here do jobs for $ we will not, which is how we keep a large portion of our food so cheap. Laborers from Mexico represent dirt cheap labor, and we have had programs over the decades that encouraged them to work in the US, and programs that discouraged them depending on the economy and political winds.

The powers that be are well aware of of the fact most people will lose their minds should the prices of foods, and other labor go up, and that's one of various reasons those who actually hire them, are either ignored or at worse, slap on the wrist. Meanwhile, the lettuce gets picked, houses get their lawns done, etc, same reason Europe allowed in those "refugees" cheap ass labor.

Vast majority of Mexicans and others coming here are as they seem, looking for a better life and make some $, which often gets sent back to their home country. A small % are what we all fear, drug runners, refugees, terrorists, etc. and all of them are of our own making sadly.

The dirty - no so well kept secret - is we need the cheap labor and no on has the balls to just say it as it is. This has been an ongoing open secret for many decades and while 'Muricans complain about those "damn Mexicans" not a one would vote for a politician who saw the costs of various foods etc skyrocket up on their watch.

Vast majority of Mexicans want what most want, feed their kids, live their lives, be left alone and such.

Until we get honest about being the black hole of drug use of the planet, knowing any real attempts to control the border will cost us on various fronts, etc, it's all BS.

[Dr. Bullseye]

Not close to accurate. We didn't lose CA, they did, cuz we took it from them, as we did TX, etc. That being said up to modern times, the border is open because most of them coming here do jobs for $ we will not, which is how we keep a large portion of our food so cheap. Laborers from Mexico represent dirt cheap labor, and we have had programs over the decades that encouraged them to work in the US, and programs that discouraged them depending on the economy and political winds.

The powers that be are well aware of of the fact most people will lose their minds should the prices of foods, and other labor go up, and that's one of various reasons those who actually hire them, are either ignored or at worse, slap on the wrist. Meanwhile, the lettuce gets picked, houses get their lawns done, etc, same reason Europe allowed in those "refugees" cheap ass labor.

Vast majority of Mexicans and others coming here are as they seem, looking for a better life and make some $, which often gets sent back to their home country. A small % are what we all fear, drug runners, refugees, terrorists, etc. and all of them are of our own making sadly.

The dirty - no so well kept secret - is we need the cheap labor and no on has the balls to just say it as it is. This has been an ongoing open secret for many decades and while 'Muricans complain about those "damn Mexicans" not a one would vote for a politician who saw the costs of various foods etc skyrocket up on their watch.

Vast majority of Mexicans want what most want, feed their kids, live their lives, be left alone and such.

Until we get honest about being the black hole of drug use of the planet, knowing any real attempts to control the border will cost us on various fronts, etc, it's all BS.

Will, you are a good guy so please don't take this as a personal attack. But one thing is for certain. You are not in California.

Here, all our elementary schools educate second generation illegals. They are swamping our educational standards and funds. Our prisons contain a majority illegal alien population content. Then there is parole-probation. There is gang enforcement costs, There are illegal drug task forces dealing with labs, smuggling, and groves. There is welfare. There is subsidized housing--for which illegals get priority. Sure, Mexican men work like dogs but illegals never earn enough money "doing jobs nobody else will do" to even feed their children. We have food stamps and food banks to do this.

And what are these "jobs nobody else will do"? They work on plantations owned by a few families occupying vast tracks of land, mostly in the Central Valley but also in Wine Country. These plantation owners demand cheap water, and I mean almost zero cost, they demand special trade laws, they demand local communities educate and feed their workers and their families. Rural towns are submerged by these costs. In a fair world these plantation owners could not make a living and would be forced to sell their plantations for subdivisions. Then the State would get some revenue. Fruit, vegetables, rice (yes rice with all that cheap water)???? Buy them from Chile. The illegals could travel down there and work.

Then there is the issue of access to resources. The State of California under Communist dictatorship gives priority in hiring to illegals and demands this of the private sector. They also allow illegals into our state funded colleges without paying tuition and as a matter of fact, gives them grants to fund their education. The State also lowers the standards of admission for them. Recently the University of California at Riverside instituted a two year program---TWO YEARS-- for illegals only buy which they could quality for medical school. So do you want to have your kids treated by an affirmative action doctor with two years medical school?

The State of California starts each fiscal year billions upon billions of dollars in the hole because of illegal aliens. Why do you think our taxes are so high? We have the worst schools and worst roads in the nation which is all the State is mandated to do.

So, finally, digest this image: Illegal Aliens are prioritized over the homeless in California. Just think about that.

[Outlander Systems]

1) They're here to do the jobs Americans won't
2) Demographic Destiny and overt invasion is okay, as long as we get cheap lawn-mowing and housekeepers

Amirite, fellow C-conservatives?

And what are these "jobs nobody else will do"? They work on plantations owned by a few families occupying vast tracks of land, mostly in the Central Valley but also in Wine Country. These plantation owners demand cheap water, and I mean almost zero cost, they demand special trade laws, they demand local communities educate and feed their workers and their families. Rural towns are submerged by these costs. In a fair world these plantation owners could not make a living and would be forced to sell their plantations for subdivisions. Then the State would get some revenue. Fruit, vegetables, rice (yes rice with all that cheap water)???? Buy them from Chile. The illegals could travel down there and work.