Q honey badger pistol re-classified as a SBR.

[1168]

Donald Trump Jr has posted about the decision as he's a big gun guy himself, so I'm willing to bet he's talked to his father about it.

We did a White House petition pretty quickly about it, too.

[Buncheong]

Is there anything to prevent a person from putting a 16” on a pistol lower, putting on a standard USGI stock and calling it a day?

Asking for a friend.

[jpmuscle]

For years now I’ve been saying nobody in Gov gives a damn about your/our civil rights and the only response to these further injustices is mass non compliance and outright defiance.

No more eating our own, no more wannabe junior g men scouring online forums calling dudes out over pinning their 14.5s etc...

I loathe Antifa, BLM, Marxist commies, etc and their illegitimate, violent, yet still permissible (to the left anyways) “protest” tactics but you’d think we’d learn from them by now. There’s no morality in loosing and likewise there’s nothing patriot about wearing your figurative Covid mask just because it’s the law.


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[Buncheong]

For years now I’ve been saying nobody in Gov gives a damn about your/our civil rights and the only response to these further injustices is mass non compliance and outright defiance.

No more eating our own, no more wannabe junior g men scouring online forums calling dudes out over pinning their 14.5s etc...

I loathe Antifa, BLM, Marxist commies, etc and their illegitimate, violent, yet still permissible (to the left anyways) “protest” tactics but you’d think we’d learn from them by now. There’s no morality in loosing and likewise there’s nothing patriot about wearing your figurative Covid mask just because it’s the law.

Tour de force ^

[AndyLate]

Is there anything to prevent a person from putting a 16” on a pistol lower, puttinnog on a standard USGI stock and calling it a day?

Asking for a friend.

You can put a 16" barrel on a pistol lower with a brace and call it a day. Its still a pistol unless the ATF rules it a rifle, in which case it has a 16" barrel so it isn't a SBR.

Once you put the longer barrel and a stock on, it's a rifle. Switching back to a pistol at that point is a gray area.

Andy

[Don't Tread On Me]

I thought going from pistol to rifle, back to pistol, was totally permissible, just not the other way around?

[jpmuscle]

I thought going from pistol to rifle, back to pistol, was totally permissible, just not the other way around?

You can. Ignore what was just stated previously. A brace isn’t what makes it a pistol. Same way putting a stock on a lower without an upper doesn’t make it an SBR.


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[AndyLate]

IMPORTANT EDIT

ATF Ruling 2011-4 covers converting a rifle to pistol, pistol to rifle, and pistol to rifle to pistol.

This link directly opens the PDF ruling. Note its an atf.gov domain:

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/ru...stols/download

I would tell you what it says, but I can't make heads or tails of it.

Andy

[Buncheong]

I appreciate the helpful reply and information, thanks very much.

[MWAG19919]

I can’t remember if it was sootch or twangnbang who said it, but I saw a YouTube video where a guy said he builds all his lowers as pistols and takes a picture with a short upper attached for his records, even if he ultimately intends to build a rifle. That way it’s always a pistol and he can return to braced short barrel configuration without creating an SBR