Chauvin Trial Commentary

[WillBrink]

All it takes is one person to actually follow the law as written and meant to throw a mistrial.

I think that riots are a given. Just how bad will they be. Every single outcome leads to a narrative that is a victory for the left. Every outcome leads to charges of systemic racism and feeds their agenda.

Remember the testimony about the racial aspects of the case? Me neither.

It was implied!

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Is 98 percent a low blood oxygen level?

98% is someone who is alive, healthy.... and breathing. Yeah, I know what you're getting at. Not sure what Tobin meant or context during rebuttal testimony today when he said that Floyd's tests at Hennepin county came back at 98%.

[eightmillimeter]

What’s the difference between oxygen saturation in the hemoglobin vs oxygen pressure in blood gas? How does someone who died of hypoxia have 98% O2 on a lab test after death? ABNAK, Chuckman, WillBrink?

[GTF425]

What’s the difference between oxygen saturation in the hemoglobin vs oxygen pressure in blood gas? How does someone who died of hypoxia have 98% O2 on a lab test after death? ABNAK, Chuckman, WillBrink?

Blood gas analysis, in comparison to a "pulse ox", can produce two separate values;

PaO2 is the partial pressure of oxygen in the blood. In simplest terms, it's the amount of oxygen dissolved in the plasma, and indicates gas tension.

SaO2 is the arterial saturation of oxygen and is pretty much interchangeable, clinically, with the values you would get from a pulse ox (SpO2).

98% SaO2 would be outstanding. Arterial "pressure" of oxygen would be PaO2 and would technically be in mmHg, not a percent value. As for what PaO2 is used for, google "Oxygen/Hemoglobin Disassociation Curve" or let a Chemistry nerd explain the Bohr effect.

TL;DR- SaO2 (arterial) and SpO2 (capillary) are almost clinically equivalent.


*ETA- I won't touch the post-resuscitation blood gases or what they mean. That's just what they are, and TBH, "sats" mean very little in cardiac arrest and mechanical ventilation strategies in comparison to pH, ETCO2, CO2/HCO3, etc.

[1168]

So this guy cited SpO2 or PaO2 values that were sampled AFTER the event?

[GTF425]

So this guy cited SpO2 or PaO2 values that were sampled AFTER the event?

Correct; the ABGs were collected after.

[1168]

Correct; the ABGs were collected after.

Jeebus. I didn’t know it was possible to be so stupid.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I heard the last of the Prosecutors closing statements and the start of the defense. Now I see the State rebuttal, and I'm not liking that guy at all. I don't know if the defense ended well, but the rebuttal seems angry and trying to make up for something.

Can a lawyer in closing say that the other side is lying? Especially in re-direct when the defense can't respond?

17,000 days alive, and then he dies. Pretty much sums it up for everyone. IF they think that is persuasive, that is pretty weak.

His heart was a 'strong heart' a healthy heart?? Wasn't he like 90 & 70% blockages?? It was also enlarged from I remember from testimony.

Frankly, the State rebuttal guy would have pissed me off if I were on the jury. He was a little fast and loose with 'stories' and facts.

[eightmillimeter]

The prosecution closing was meh at best. The defense closing was pretty good. The prosecution rebuttal is very good.

Just so no one is surprised...

2nd Degree Manslaughter - Guilty
3rd Degree Murder - Guilty
2nd Degree Murder - Coin Toss

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Can the get Maxine Waters for contempt of court and throw her in jail . She was the only person that seem to really get the ire of the judge. He pretty much put her in her place.

How is jury wasn’t sequestered I have no idea why. It wasn’t that long of a trial.