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Yup. I’ve carried the M9 in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, some other places, including in brownout conditions that turn the insides red-brown (Somali dirt is a red clay). Its among the most reliable handgun available in those conditions, and I’ve also been issued M11, 1911, Glock. The open top slide has never caused me a problem. I’m very very suspicious of the M17/18 reliability in the same conditions.
Somali dirt is a key reason that Unit ditched 1911s. I can confirm that they are problematic in ME/SWA/AFRICOM.
Issued Checkmate M9 mags are hot garbage, and I’d go so far as to buy my own if I were issued those and had to rely on a 92.
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agreed. I think the COP Keating problem was more conventional than SOF (since we’re talking about a SOF gun). I’ve been more or less everywhere in Afghanistan, and the mountainous northern part of a bordering country, and when in mountainous terrain, we tried to use the terrain to our advantage whenever possible, usually to great effect. I also had a close friend at Keating. He got shot, but did survive to fight another day. I heard some wild stories when we lived next door to each other, and I don’t think he ever recovered from all that.
everyone should watch this when Afghanistan comes up. In most of the stories I’ve heard of conventional dudes having a bad day due to “overmatch”, GPMGs were notably absent. I don’t give a **** how heavy that pig is, we’re bringing it, and a magnum bolt gun, too. AND A RADIO.
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I remember every COP I was on was built on top of an absolute mother****er of a hill to walk up. Literally walked uphill both ways in the snow when patrolling in the winter.
This was my pet peeve as WSL. Guys trying to find ways to cut corners because it sucks being on a gun team. And with comms; I get it- ASIPs and 117s suck to carry, roger. Having no comms because you, the FO, wanted to sneak an MBITR in your assault pack sucks even worse.
Don’t forget the tripods, and T&E’s. A GPMG without those is just an over sized SAW. And all the ammo.
The PFC’s are gonna hate their life carrying that shit, but everyone will feel pretty clever when the poo hits the fan and you have the ability to lay down serious belt fed hate at extended distances and do beaten zones and MG shit.
SOF has a specific line of funding and a much more narrow T&E and equipping process than the other components. Because of that, they will often field equipment first and then maybe it’ll trickle to the conventional side. SOF were the first to use GPS in its (relatively) current state back in the Persian Gulf War. But since each component of SOCOM still falls under their respective service branch, SOF won’t typically get in on T&E of something that a branch is testing, unless they see a lot of promise in it. That’s because if the branch picks it up, it’ll come to SOF through the branch anyways. Bottom line is that if it’s a SOF program, SOF is paying for it so they’re not about to kick it out to a conventional force to get T&E’d. Plus, SOF puts this stuff through way better trials than the conventional force will anyways.
All that aside, I’m trying to figure out what this thing is going to be used for. Outside of JSOC doing JSOC things, there’s a lot of high level discussions right now on SOF’s role in GPC and LSCO and none of it involves teams getting into gunfights with medium to heavy machine guns. Cool that we have it I guess, but unless we royally screw up and get involved in another proxy war, I’m not sure what the point is.
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A 338 MG makes a lot more sense than a 6.8 M7 to me, ma deuce is getting a little long in the tooth and this will be much better for dismount use. But this is one of three guns in competition for the contract with one of them being Sig and we all know how that usually goes. I was surprised to recently learn that DSA has a lot of experience building and supplying commie weapons, they built over 300 RPD's for a USMC training mission to some African country. The PKM is a great MG for it's time but the Poles have had a lot of trouble converting them to push through links which is a much simpler and more efficient design.
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