Guns You Wanted To Love, but just couldn't...

[SteyrAUG]

Ok, I gotta ask what is number one then? - P7 is probably my #1 -

My SIG P226, excellent trigger, higher magazine capacity and maybe a tad more accurate.

The 226 is my regular carry, the P7 is my low profile carry. I shoot those two better than anything else I own. I briefly owned a P7M13 but it really felt off balance, I'd actually rather do a mag change.

[SteyrAUG]

My understanding of this list is a gun that I THOUGHT I WOULD LIKE, not just a gun I dislike.



My example is the P30. I SHOULD like that gun. I am an HK fanboy for sure. I love the P9, P7, USP, P2000. But for some reason the P30 just doesn't click for me. Something went wrong in the mix.

The ONLY thing about the P30 (V3) I don't like is the decocker on the back of the slide. Every time I drop the hammer I'm trusting engineering to not break my thumb. I know HK are the great innovators but that one always gives me a moment. Especially coming from a SIG P series which is probably the best decocker ever.

[SteyrAUG]

Ruger Scout rifle. Thought it was an awesome concept and tried my best to convince myself that it was a great gun, especially after spending a significant amount of time and money getting a surefire flash hider properly installed on its tapered barrel. After a couple of hunting trips I finally conceded that I was an idiot for trying to replace a 30-30 lever gun with it.

Steyr Scout. The GREAT Jeff Cooper said it was the perfect rifle. But between the hard to acquire (for me) low magnification optic, the clunky hand guards are my bipod, a 5 round magazine and the fact that it's a bolt action had me thinking it did almost nothing well vs. did everything great. I think the only reason it sold at all is so many semi autos were banned from import in 1989 creating a market for such things.

At the time you could grab a lightweight Mannlicher carbine that would run circles around a Steyr scout.

[LoboTBL]

I don't have any guns that I really hate. I do have a few that I like less than others and less than I thought I would. My Glocks fall into the first category and my Sig 320s fall into the second. I have put an FCU in an AXG frame and I do like it better than the poly frame Sigs but not as much as my 220 or 226. I'm convinced I won't like a 365 for carry use in shorts and t-shirt so I'm just going to stick with the little 43x for that role. The only other gun I have that I never really even wanted is an MSAR (kinda-sorta Steyr Aug clone) and the only thing I can't dislike about it is that it just points so damn well. I shoulder it and everything just lines up.

[arptsprt]

Ruger P-89. My very first pistol. I still have it.


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[Alpha-17]

I can only speak from my wallet.

I ponied up for G-Triggers on both the SCAR and TAR. Don't get me wrong, the AUG trigger isn't great, but it isn't bad enough where I felt I absolutely had to spend nearly $500 on a replacement.

In my opinion, the SCAR and TAR trigger upgrades are must haves......If I could find the original SCAR trigger, I'd pop it back in and take a reading on it, but I'd bet its dern near a 20# pull. Maybe it breaks in with use, but that damn thing came out within a week after one range session.

ETA: I'm not a trigger snob either, I can shoot the HK rifle triggers just fine and they aren't anywhere near world class, they're kind of funky, springy/spongy compared to other triggers. That said, most of my non Colt AR's have SSA-E's which tends to spoil me a bit. I took my mostly Colt A2 to the range on Thursday with a Colt Mil-Spec trigger and I was like oh shit, that is a harder break than most of my other rifles. But I managed to get the irons adjusted and shoot decent groups.

Something was definitely wrong there. I'll have to grab a scale and figure out what mine reads at, but it's nowhere near 20lbs.

[Averageman]

Thought about it quite a bit so. Winchester 12 gauge "Defender".
Defnatly light for a twelve gauge so recoil was sketchy, but the rear stock was designed by the Marques de Sade and had the ergonomics of the water end of a boat oar making it nice to look at but unmanagable in crisis.
A couple of years later I went out of my way to buy a POS Shottie and build it up a bit and I ended up with a franken shotgun that's nice enough to make it enjoyable to shoot.

[Waylander]

The ONLY thing about the P30 (V3) I don't like is the decocker on the back of the slide. Every time I drop the hammer I'm trusting engineering to not break my thumb. I know HK are the great innovators but that one always gives me a moment. Especially coming from a SIG P series which is probably the best decocker ever.

HK messed up when they went away from the FCG and plate system of the USP and built the p2000. Though I seem to remember the new system being smaller due to weight and compactness. Being able to switch between all variants and having the decocker linked the safety seems ideal to me.

The long slide releases are also not ideal but I can work around them.

Basically if HK had designed the p30 like the HK45 it would be ideal.

As far as the list goes, I thought I’d like the USP 40 a lot better than I do.

[SteyrAUG]

Basically if HK had designed the p30 like the HK45 it would be ideal.

I tend to agree. Would also be easier on us that came from their USP series.

[Alpha-17]

If I could find the original SCAR trigger, I'd pop it back in and take a reading on it, but I'd bet its dern near a 20# pull. Maybe it breaks in with use, but that damn thing came out within a week after one range session.

Something was definitely wrong there. I'll have to grab a scale and figure out what mine reads at, but it's nowhere near 20lbs.

Grabbed a scaled from work and measured mine. Averaged to 7.5lbs. Not great, but no where near 20lbs. I've had mine since early 2011 though, so it's had more than enough time to break in, but hard to imagine that much of a difference is due entirely to breaking it in.