Shotguns not for COMBAT use

[Alaskapopo]

What slugs do you prefer? Are 1oz 2.75" Remington Sluggers good against the bears? Also, do you prefer a 12ga and slugs over something like a lever .45-70? Why?

Breneke Slugs 2 3/4 mags. Foster slugs are are too soft.
Pat

[Cameron]

It's simple really, a shotgun is the thinking man's second choice for a fight when a rifle is in the offering.

Cameron

[WS6]

It's simple really, a shotgun is the thinking man's second choice for a fight when a rifle is in the offering.

Cameron

It really depends on what kind of fight we are talking about. CQB in my apartment I would take my M4S90 over any other platform. It is THE MOST reliable weapon I have ever owned. Be it AR/LesBaer/Glock/ANYTHING. My M4S90 WILL GO BANG. And unless I totally limp-wrist it (I can fire it 1-handed and it still cycles just fine), it WILL load all 8 remaining shells.

[WS6]

Breneke Slugs 2 3/4 mags. Foster slugs are are too soft.
Pat

That's kinda what I figured.

How would you feel armed with OOO Buck? Totally under-gunned?

[Alaskapopo]

That's kinda what I figured.

How would you feel armed with OOO Buck? Totally under-gunned?

Against bear yes. Black bear sure it would work fine. But we have brown bear in my area as well.
Pat

[WS6]

Against bear yes. Black bear sure it would work fine. But we have brown bear in my area as well.
Pat

I can wiki a black bear and see how sizeable it is, but are they "tough" or not? Like a Coyote, they take a LOT to put down even though they are small.

[Alaskapopo]

I can wiki a black bear and see how sizeable it is, but are they "tough" or not? Like a Coyote, they take a LOT to put down even though they are small.

I had to kill 2 black bear last summer in the line of duty. The first one I had to kill charged me. 2 slugs put it down but it tried to get back up. I shot it 2 more times on the ground, reloaded then shot it twice in the head. Yes they are tough. The second bear I had to shoot had broken into a woman's apartment. When I arrived on scene it was in the laundry room. I waited for it to exit and I waited until I had a safe back stop. It rose up on its hind legs. from about 7 yards away. I shot it in the chest once and then twice more in the back as it turned to run. that slowed it down but it was still moving away. I reloaded and got closer to it. It spun around and started biting at its own mid section. I shot it 3 more times as it spun. This dropped it. I then put two in its head. I used Breneke slugs. Yes bears are tough to kill.
Pat

[WS6]

I had to kill 2 black bear last summer in the line of duty. The first one I had to kill charged me. 2 slugs put it down but it tried to get back up. I shot it 2 more times on the ground, reloaded then shot it twice in the head. Yes they are tough. The second bear I had to shoot had broken into a woman's apartment. When I arrived on scene it was in the laundry room. I waited for it to exit and I waited until I had a safe back stop. It rose up on its hind legs. from about 7 yards away. I shot it in the chest once and then twice more in the back as it turned to run. that slowed it down but it was still moving away. I reloaded and got closer to it. It spun around and started biting at its own mid section. I shot it 3 more times as it spun. This dropped it. I then put two in its head. I used Breneke slugs. Yes bears are tough to kill.
Pat

Wow. And you would also trust OOO Buck within 30-40 yards?

I wiki'ed the BB. It can reach 115-600#...quite the range...

[Alaskapopo]

Wow. And you would also trust OOO Buck within 30-40 yards?

I wiki'ed the BB. It can reach 115-600#...quite the range...

I would not trust buck at all only Breneke slugs. 000 buck lacks the penetration needed to reliably but a brown bear down. Black bear sure but not brown. We do have brown bear here as well so that is the threat I plan for.
Pat

[WS6]

I would not trust buck at all only Breneke slugs. 000 buck lacks the penetration needed to reliably but a brown bear down. Black bear sure but not brown. We do have brown bear here as well so that is the threat I plan for.
Pat

Would OOO down a 600# Black Bear safely/reliably/comfortably for you? (reason I ask is my friends live where Black Bear also live)