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    I am a firm believer in using FULL COLOR targets. Why? I think it is good to look a bad guy in the eyes and see a weapon pointed at you (ups the stress level).

    Here are some of the targets we used:

    DEAD COP


    Watch out for those Pregnant women with guns!


    Sgt. Watson telling the shooter why he sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Complication View Post
    Lies, damn dirty lies!
    Ya know, I told Sgt. Watson that at the Vickers HD class at BW that A LOT OF COPS were shot. Then at this class A LOT OF COPS were shot.

    I think he is reconsidering his line of work (or ever producing his badge in an off duty shooting).



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    Quote Originally Posted by orionz06 View Post
    Thoughts:


    My take away points:

    • Slow down
    • Make the shots count
    • Move
    • Slice the pie
    • Slow down
    • ID the target, not everyone with a gun is a BG
    • ID the target, not everyone with armor is a GG
    • Use the cracks in the door
    • Find a good ready position that allows movement and is safe for those you dont want to shoot. This also means a ready position without the finger in the trigger
    • Positin of the gun in your ready position will prevent you from seeing badges
    • No one was told to shoot faster



    For a one day session, this was excellent to give a lot of things to work on. In the past I have struggled with what to do, and I believe Sgt. Watson mentioned that anyone can go shoot a case of ammo, but you need a plan. This is again the same point mentioned by others and stressed a lot. 100 plannedrounds is better than a case of shooting.

    Another thing that wasn't stressed the whole time, but should be obvious is that people should try their best to take a class. I think I benefited greatly from the past regional group work, but all the pieces came together in my first class. (I know this sounds like a sales pitch, but it is the truth)
    You were one of the better shooters in the house. Your main issue is running that pistol like a SMG. I was unaware that they could go that fast! You changed hands well and for the most part, made good hits on the targets.

    Position SUL is a good one to be in when you have people around (that are none threats) like me. I am NOT a fan of low ready in a room clearing environment.

    Jay and I take GREAT PRIDE in hearing that you learned something from the regional training we have provided and then applied it in Ken's pistol class. That's what this is all about (mission accomplished).



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Jay and I take GREAT PRIDE in hearing that you learned something from the regional training we have provided and then applied it in Ken's pistol class. That's what this is all about (mission accomplished).



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    Lets just see if LAV makes fun of me in November now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR-15Tom View Post
    My experience in the shoot house was eye opening to say the least. It was surprising to see how easy it is to record low-quality hits and even throw shots entirely from only a few feet away when the pressure was on.

    One of my many lessons learned was not to take the fundamentals for granted. If you’re screwing up at the square range your mistakes will be multiplied substantially in the shoot house. Thanks to Sunday’s instruction I have a list of items I need to work on, and it’s longer than I would like to admit.

    Thank you Grant and Sgt. Watson for sharing your insight and expertise with us. I look forward to improving as a shooter and learning more from each of you in the future.

    Good point about being fundamentally sound. Under stress we witnessed:

    1. Poor malfunction clearing.
    2. Poor Tactical Reloads.
    3. Poor Emergency Reloads.
    4. Poor Accuracy.
    5. Poor decision making.

    If one is NOT a good shooter (meaning fundamentally sound and can routinely put a round where they aim), then they will fall apart in a shoot house (as there is just too much for the brain to remember/do).


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    Quote Originally Posted by orionz06 View Post
    Lets just see if LAV makes fun of me in November now...
    Well, he makes fun of me, so I am sure you will not be spared.



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    That pic of me in the kitchen entry is tough to look at. Having sent one round toward the chick with the revolver that went between her and the guy, I've moved on to the next target and am happily blasting away with an armed aggressor at my back. *sigh*

    Lesson learned: shoot, assess my hits, shoot again as necessary.

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    Awesome pictures and video.

    Glad to see it went well!
    Hope you put on more training events like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 556mp View Post
    Awesome pictures and video.

    Glad to see it went well!
    Hope you put on more training events like this.
    There are and will be more options for you.

    Here is a Home Defense course with Ken Hackathorn in October: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=62946

    In 2011, we will be doing 1 day and 2 day HD courses: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=62879


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    Thanks for the information Grant.
    I'm going to try like hell to make one of them.

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