Why There Will Always Be Gun Ban Efforts...And What To Do About It...

**SteyrAUG** · 03-10-18, 12:17

Originally Posted by Dist. Expert 26

Contacting local news outlets is a good idea and something I hadn't thought of.

Be really careful. You can be selectively quoted and then counter pointed by some talking head. You end up having an argument that you never intended with someone you never met. I've seen that happen once or twice.

**R6436** · 03-10-18, 12:22

Thing to keep in mind with the media is no matter how long an interview may be or the length of time they are at an event, they will be limited in how much on-air time/space on the page they get for the actual report. I realize in this day and age that doesn't make much sense as they could easily post the entire content to their website and/or social media. Also keep in mind they will more than likely edit things in a way to show their view over yours. I would recommend recording things yourself as well.

Currently working with the Programming Director at a local TV affiliate to see what, if any, air time would be available to get information out.

**Dist. Expert 26** · 03-10-18, 12:38

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

Be really careful. You can be selectively quoted and then counter pointed by some talking head. You end up having an argument that you never intended with someone you never met. I've seen that happen once or twice.

This is true. Anyone in that position needs to be extremely careful with their words.

**LoboTBL** · 03-10-18, 12:47

A major problem, as I see it, is that those who are adamant and fanatical about gun control measures and the outright banning of guns; are willing to do absolutely anything to achieve their goal. That of course includes things such as using the tragic deaths of children and others to highlight what they believe is the need to ban guns. They are also willing to lie and propagate the lies of others to achieve their goal. They are also willing to take recorded statements made by people who are telling the truth and edit them to misrepresent what was said.

The only real way to combat this is to expose what they are doing. The only way to expose them is to have people in the media who are willing to expose the lies.

**yellowfin** · 03-11-18, 21:11

Originally Posted by LoboTBL

A major problem, as I see it, is that those who are adamant and fanatical about gun control measures and the outright banning of guns; are willing to do absolutely anything to achieve their goal. That of course includes things such as using the tragic deaths of children and others to highlight what they believe is the need to ban guns. They are also willing to lie and propagate the lies of others to achieve their goal. They are also willing to take recorded statements made by people who are telling the truth and edit them to misrepresent what was said.

The only real way to combat this is to expose what they are doing. The only way to expose them is to have people in the media who are willing to expose the lies.

There is of course something else that is highly problematic that nobody seems to really do much about fixing: the unwillingness of our side to be similarly dedicated to eradicating the anti gun political movement as they are to doing the same to us. As you point out, there is a significant number of people and/or a few people with large resources who are willing to go to such lengths to basically remove us as a cultural, social, and political presence, so much so they consider it a life mission to do so. Currently to date they face little to no penalty or cost when they try and fail, whereas if we fail to stop them we lose significantly. Thus their efforts win or lose cost them nothing they are unwilling to spend or risk. THAT is our biggest problem. For some reason, and this seems totally screwed up to me, our side seems perfectly content to only stall them one day at a time, exacts very little to no material punishment upon them, and makes virtually no plan whatsoever for an end to their predations. To defeat an enemy properly there are exactly two ways: crush them entirely so that there exists no further enemy in person and/or with resources left to fight, or inflicting damage upon them so severe and/or elevating the price of continuing to fight so high that it is unacceptable in their minds to do so, that avoiding that cost exceeds their motivation to do what they wanted to do. WW2 was brought to an end because we inflicted #1 on Germany and #2 on Japan.

I am not sure at what point we lost that clarity but it is about damned time we get clear on it.

What might that look like? Start actually doing stuff that isn't just letter writing and voting once every couple of years. That means making local political donors accountable--stop calling politicians and start calling them. Kick out anti gun school board members--ALL OF THEM. Ditto university trustees. Be visible in our communities and involved in churches, country clubs, and any other significant social and civic organizations and if there's anti gun people running them, replace them with yourself or someone you know who is for us. Be sociable: have people over to your house a lot, grill out in the backyard, and network the same way you would for business but for social influence. Having attained that, if any of your schools have any of that crap about students joining the anti gun demonstrations and the superintendent allowing it, or especially praising it, FIRE HIS/HER *** NOW.

**Diamondback** · 03-11-18, 21:26

Originally Posted by yellowfin

There is of course something else that is highly problematic that nobody seems to really do much about fixing: the unwillingness of our side to be similarly dedicated to eradicating the anti gun political movement as they are to doing the same to us. As you point out, there is a significant number of people and/or a few people with large resources who are willing to go to such lengths to basically remove us as a cultural, social, and political presence, so much so they consider it a life mission to do so. Currently to date they face little to no penalty or cost when they try and fail, whereas if we fail to stop them we lose significantly. Thus their efforts win or lose cost them nothing they are unwilling to spend or risk. THAT is our biggest problem. For some reason, and this seems totally screwed up to me, our side seems perfectly content to only stall them one day at a time, exacts very little to no material punishment upon them, and makes virtually no plan whatsoever for an end to their predations. To defeat an enemy properly there are exactly two ways: crush them entirely so that there exists no further enemy in person and/or with resources left to fight, or inflicting damage upon them so severe and/or elevating the price of continuing to fight so high that it is unacceptable in their minds to do so, that avoiding that cost exceeds their motivation to do what they wanted to do. WW2 was brought to an end because we inflicted #1 on Germany and #2 on Japan.

I am not sure at what point we lost that clarity but it is about damned time we get clear on it. Start actually doing stuff that isn't just letter writing and voting once every couple of years. That means making local political donors accountable--stop calling politicians and start calling them. Kick out anti gun school board members--ALL OF THEM. Ditto university trustees. Be visible in our communities and involved in churches, country clubs, and any other significant social and civic organizations and if there's anti gun people running them, replace them with yourself or someone you know who is for us.

Some of this is because the "Muh Principles" crowd of Forever Preening Moral Narcissists refuse to get their hands dirty, study the tactics of the Left and exploit them against the other team's weaknesses. If the Establishment Swamp Creatures and the NeverTard Kapos had any balls, they'd join my crowd in pointing out the links between Progressivism, Communism and Nazism (the New Left being a reunification of the two), and tie Hitler and Stalin like an albatross around their ideological children's necks.

The other team is lucky we're hamstrung by having jobs to do and bills to pay, because if we had the time and inclination to demonstrate in the streets the way they do...