Bug-out gun of sufficient power/range

[Defaultmp3]

Is that a "chopped" LMT SOPMOD stock? If so, where to find one?

From LMT.

https://lmtdefense.com/product/pdw-buttstock-kit/

[ABNAK]

From LMT.

https://lmtdefense.com/product/pdw-buttstock-kit/

Damn, $500 for that? AND out of stock? Sorry I asked! (but thanks for the link)

[AndyLate]

IIRC didn't Ruger already do that when they beefed up the design for the PC Carbine and PC Charger from the 10/22 basic concept? They're not just a straight "upscaled 10/22" even though they use some of the same FCG components.

The PC carbines are simple blow back. The spec sheet I looked at for a 16" version shows it weighs 6.8 lbs. That's a lot of weight for pistol ballistics, given that a 16" 1892 Winchester weighs 6 lbs and an 18" M1 carbine weighs 5.5 (and both are walnut and steel).

Andy

[Diamondback]

The PC carbines are simple blow back. The spec sheet I looked at for a 16" version shows it weighs 6.8 lbs. That's a lot of weight for pistol ballistics, given that a 16" 1892 Winchester weighs 6 lbs and an 18" M1 carbine weighs 5.5 (and both a walnut and steel).

Andy

Thanks--7lb is almost all the way into the AR weight class, in which case you might as well just build a GAU-5 pistol with a swappable 16" front-end.

[jstone]

there is a product that Keltec makes that is similar to the sub2000, but in 556 it is called the SU16. It folds as well but it's the stock that folds. they make the SU16D9, and the SU16D12. one is a 9 inch barrel the other is 12. It's not a high end rifle just like the sub2000 is not, but I would think it could get you home.

folded length should be below 20 inches for the 9 and a little over for the 12. keltecs specs seem wrong there 16inch I 26.9 folded, but the 12 is supposedly 24.9, and the 9 is 19. it might be worth a look. the only issue that makes giving it a shot is the tax stamp involved.

[AndyLate]

I would like to see a CZ Scorpion size 9mm SBR with a locked breech or delayed blowback in the 4.5 - 5 lb range. Even better if available in 40 S&W/357 SIG.

I have been messing with my M1 Garands and am hating on heavy guns

Andy

[Sidneyious]

Whatever happened to that mechtech thing?

[ABNAK]

there is a product that Keltec makes that is similar to the sub2000, but in 556 it is called the SU16. It folds as well but it's the stock that folds. they make the SU16D9, and the SU16D12. one is a 9 inch barrel the other is 12. It's not a high end rifle just like the sub2000 is not, but I would think it could get you home.

folded length should be below 20 inches for the 9 and a little over for the 12. keltecs specs seem wrong there 16inch I 26.9 folded, but the 12 is supposedly 24.9, and the 9 is 19. it might be worth a look. the only issue that makes giving it a shot is the tax stamp involved.

Hadn't thought about the Kel Tec SU16C. Of course it's still a Kel Tec, so.....

Having said that, I took a gander online and can't find it in stock anywhere (that isn't a scam website of course).

[ABNAK]

Whatever happened to that mechtech thing?

From their website: .357Sig is no longer supported, but the Glock 32 frame can be used on a CCU chambered in 9mm or 40S&W.

So no, the 357Sig isn't an option for the Mech Tech.

[mig1nc]

WEIGHT
4.1 lbs.
LENGTH
17.75”

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