Originally Posted by
kwelz
These points are partial at best and overall misleading. The economy is doing well but it is hardly in some grand state that is unprecedented. Overall growth has been good yes. But I can point to a number of time is the last 16 years it was as good. But in return we have record setting deficit. Decreased spending power, prices on raw materials increasing and jobs being lost due to the tariffs. All the while China and our trade partners are starting to look elsware for their goods and American farmers need a bailout to get through. Totally wrong frame of reference. The fact was that we were headed towards a recession and Trump put that off by at least two years. On the other hand, the left said that pandemonium and destruction would happen to the economy if Trump were elected and....... waiting for it. The deficit is from too much spending not the tax cut. Frankly, the dems have largely driven the debt (or not cared) for their own political gain, and since we are all on the line for debt, we might as well take a bite from the forbidden fruit. Adam and Eve both got thrown out. China is going to starve or cut meat from their diets when the Brazilians run out of soybeans. You think the world has that much spare soy beans? Prices are going up, but frankly we have to figure out a way that wages increase before the fed takes away the punch bowl the bankers are drunk.
And of course our allies are sick and tired of us in the last 2 years thanks to his antics. He is an embarrassment from an international relations point of view. BHO was an embarrassment and dangerous, I'll take the 50% improvement.
You can't just use talking points and claim that makes up the entire economy. You have to look at the long term.
Take trumps desire to bring back manufacturing jobs. I hear people cheer about that, especially here all the time. But the cold hard fact is that those jobs are at best short term. Manufacturing is going to become more and more automated and within many of our lifetimes you can expect fully automated factories for many goods. So what is the point of bringing back all these manufacturing jobs when it is a dying industry? The answer is simple. It appeals to voters who don't look at the long picture.
In the end though it isn't even about politics. To most trump supporters, including many people here, it is about religion. He could walk down and break the neck of a reporter in a press conference and you all would say it is what the guy deserved then go on and vote Trump in as Emperor.
He represents the darkest parts of America. He appeals to radicals and racists like 7n6 and stirs them up. And frankly he is a shitbag that needs to be flushed down the toilet and back to the sewers where he belongs.
If you cheer this guy on like a messiah then you need to go back and read our founding documentation again and try to remember what this country is about. Because Trump isn't it.
Trump is a natural response to a democracy poisoned by the MSM/DEM cabal that was never stood up to by the GOP. Call me racist, call me ignorant, call me radical. I am none of those. I am Kavanaugh. And I have had enough. I am tired of standing around social situations and people with job titles that make no sense, spout socialist elitist bullshit that is nothing more than virtue signaling collectivist crap.
They said Reagan was dumb, and he beat the Soviets. They called George Bush a wimp, when he was the youngest pilot in the Navy and head of the CIA. They called W evil, but now he is touted by Pelosi as someone she worked with. They made Romney out to be a serial killer- when he is probably the most moral person ever to run for POTUS.
F that noise. If they can demonize Romney, they will demonize anyone. So we finally woke up to that and instead of letting them demonize the next GOP victim, we decided to skip a step . and just run the Devil.
Trump IS playing the long game by putting SCOTUS on a stable path and by hacking regulations all over the place. Those are the longest games in town.
Sure, sit and snicker at Trump. I always marvel at people that denigrate and put down people, and then get their asses handed to them by.
Originally Posted by
Hmac
I'm trying to think of a Vice President that wasn't...
Dick Cheney?
Pence is a ghost. At least be an arrow catcher or something. Maybe he is out there tickling the balls of the evangelicals and I don't hear about it.
Last edited by FromMyColdDeadHand; 11-07-18 at 17:38.
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