HK SP5K / MP5s

[SteyrAUG]

I think the greater philosophical question is- would now be the time to update to modern weapons instead of outdated relics designed during the cold war?

For me or the military? Because they are two very different things.

[shootdr1]

I picked up an HK SP5 K. It should ship on Friday so I am hoping to get it out sometime late next week. I was on the fence about it vs the Zenith but I got a good deal on the HK so went with that. I am going to get the APC Pro very soon as well so that should be neat to compare them. I will post some pics when I get it.

[C-grunt]

I was at the range today with my Zenith and my friends MP5 and B&T GHM9-C. We were filming some promo vids for his products (Custom Smith Mfg).

The MP5 definitely has less recoil and was easier to stay on the 2/3 size IDPA steel at 50 yards. Not that the B&T was hard though.

If I had to choose one to go raid an embassy tomorrow I'd choose the B&T. That being said the MP5 wouldn't get my kilt in da street either.

I love my Zenith but will probably buy a B&T down the road.

[kaltesherz]

This thread should help out any new MP5 owner or potential owner. I've had everyone from gun noobs to SOF dudes gush over mine after putting a mag or two through it. MP5 or GTFO.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...w-A-love-story

[ccosby]

This thread should help out any new MP5 owner or potential owner. I've had everyone from gun noobs to SOF dudes gush over mine after putting a mag or two through it. MP5 or GTFO.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...w-A-love-story

I was at an indoor range with some friends not too long ago and ended up letting some women shoot my converted hk94 with sear. I think it was the second or third time one of them had been shooting and they had shot pistols and an ar. Couple of shots in I told her to click it to the 3 round burst and hold on as her husband was telling her to go for it. With the 3 shot burst she was able to keep it on target putting a huge smile on her face. You could tell how shocked they were with how easy it was to shoot.

Its really hard to describe unless you shoot one next to something else, even another 9mm pcc. I wish some of these newer guns shot as smooth.

Now I brought out my mp5sd to a mg shoot last earlier this year running the sear pack(hk94 with a mp5sd parts kit and kac can). Most of the people there that had shot mgs before hadn't shot one of them. That thing really shocked people. God I ****ing hated cleaning it after though, it was run hard that day.

[Boba Fett v2]

Turkish made will never be better than, nor the equal to German made. If you want a MKE, buy the MKE. But don’t for a moment consider it the equal of a German MP5.

The MKE has a paddle mag release and threaded/3-lug barrel. I wish HK had done the same. But I will still choose HK over MKE, POF, or any other. There are myriad reports of QC issues from both MKE and POF. The 3-lugs are also not timed. I would prefer to spend the extra cash and own the HK.

It’s not brand snobbery. I shoot my MP5s frequently and don’t baby them.

I second this. Picked up one of the first SP5Ks when they were released back in 2016. My LGS only had two come in and I claimed one of them paying full MSRP at the time. Last year I picked up a Zenith Z5P upper direct from Zenith (James Williamson when he was heading operations) and it had issues. Of course they took care of me and fixed it, but I ended up selling it and won't consider another Zenith when there are better options available. My full-sized MP5 will be a Dakota Tactical unless HK surprises us with a full-sized MP5 pistol to build from. I've got KAC components and a final run MP5-Navy suppressor just waiting for the right host.

Dont waste your time on MP5s. they suck.

not a troll. not a joke. Not irony.

They were relevant in from the 60s tp the 80s but nos they simply are not worth the time, money, money, MONEY, and stress for a delayed blowback pistol caliber. They make respectable 9mm ARs that do well in PCC matches.

That being said, I have no real practical use for my SP5K or any future MP5 variant I might own. For me it's all about having a very cool, albeit expensive, range toy and collector piece that I've always wanted since I was a young dude watching kickass action movies like Die Hard. I take it out on occasion just for shits and giggles and it's great for Instagram, but I have what I need for serious work if it comes down to it. 'Murica.

[chadbag]

Back in the late 90s, I bought an H&K SP89 and I also bought a Fleming sear. I sent the SP89 off to Terry Dyer with a nice sized check. It came back with the upper re-marked to say MP5K, a standard SEF trigger pack (converted to clip on), a K fore grip, 3 lug barrel, an H&K marked folding stock (PDW style), and instructions on how to put the sear in with a tool included. Once I had it all together, it was basically an MP5K-PDW. The difference being the trigger pack still being a clip-on and not a real push pin). Being single and a computer SW engineer contractor had its benefits back then.

(As an aside: It came back to me by UPS. I came home from work and there was a package sitting on my doorstep, as the UPS guy had come while I was gone. I think there was something about Adult Signature Required but he just left it -- was nice to live in the backwoods, relatively speaking, in New Hampshire).

It was a very nice shooter. With a small amount of practice, you could do a full mag dump of 30 rds and keep them on a paper plate at some nominal distance (15-20 ft or maybe 25 ft). Very easy to shoot. The first few rounds had a slight amount of rise, then it just leveled off and stayed on target.

I did not take it out that often but it was a blast and every one who shot it liked it (and it was easy for almost anyone to shoot short bursts with).

Alas, I sold it last year (sear and gun together). While I loved it, and would have liked to keep it, at this stage in my life, I'd had the satisfaction of shooting it a bunch and in our family situation right now we needed the money to help against some obligations.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I wonder what the PSA MP5s will be like. Supposed to hit a new low price point.

[wolffie]

I wonder what the PSA MP5s will be like. Supposed to hit a new low price point.

My assumption, because of the goal of price point, Is that it’s a race to the bottom....

Hopefully we’re all shocked. But PSA doesn’t instill confidence.

[scooter22]

For what it's worth, my Zenith Z5P will only reliably feed round nose ammunition. However, I honestly haven't had the time to troubleshoot much.

Ergos and trigger leave much to be desired in my opinion.

Recoil is non-existent compared to CZ Scorpion.

Overall, it's a fun "range toy". I would prefer something with a manual of arms more similar to an AR for SD/HD.