Retired ATF agent says AR-15 rifles should be regulated like machine guns

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

It's funny that a major reason not to overturn RoevWade is the number of women that would die in back alley abortions. And what would happen if they tried to confiscate guns?

No, it's the slow boiling from, passive-aggressive attack on gun rights. Remember, by far most of the Progressive-Collectivist people shouting about guns really don't care- they are just virtue signaling. Spend money, risk their lives, doing something meaningful about guns is not in their tool box of things to do.

[yoni]

Study the Warsaw ghetto uprising.

[RazorBurn]

Apparently you didn’t read the first part of my post.

I absolutely did read it. However, your proposed compromise (that I can only hope was stated in jest) in the finale undid everything in the first paragraph and was almost more than I could bear.

[RazorBurn]

Something I posted in the other thread:

Discretion is the better part of valor. An M4 by each window as a SWAT team bum-rushes your house isn't the brightest idea; yeah, you might get one or two but you'd be toast. The smarter person has nothing to find and "stabs them in the back" at some point in the future.

In other words the wise person lives to fight another day when he can choose the battle and it's circumstances.

Tell that to those who fought in the Warsaw ghetto...

Study the Warsaw ghetto uprising.

I replied before I saw your post.

[Hmac]

I have less than zero concerns about confiscation...If we want to play that game, though, I imagine they can track you down just based on your participation in this forum.

Yeah, that's where I am. They're playing the long game. They'll just make possession illegal and confiscate them as they encounter them. It will take longer but it won't be nearly as messy.

[docsherm]

Yeah, that's where I am. They're playing the long game. They'll just make possession illegal and confiscate them as they encounter them. It will take longer but it won't be nearly as messy.

That won't even happen as there are way too many in circulation. That would become a full time job in itself. When that is going on the real criminals would be having a LEO free time like in the purge movies.

[Honu]

maybe old enough and lived in other countries and studied history enough to never say never !!!!

taxes on ammo and so on the idea of taking over time ? sure full time job they could hire more looser workers to do it that would be happy to do it and claim see we created jobs and you would have the expansion of the losers at airports coming into your homes !!!

I do not trust the gov lefties to do this

who thought Russia would fall as quick as it did ?
who thought the wall would come down the way it did ?
how fast did land lines go away and cell phones take over internet and the way we live now compared to say even 30 years ago are radical life shifts
so even if things change over 30 years ?

do I think they will ? yes that is the end game so it will be never ending until they do and unless the next gen radically shifts into conservative values ?

[ABNAK]

Tell that to those who fought in the Warsaw ghetto...

Not sure of your point, but I don't think that's what Yoni was referring to. The Warsaw Ghetto was surrounded and enclosed by superior forces. The scale of what I was referring to encompasses an entire nation (and one MUCH bigger than Poland), not an isolated, cut-off ghetto.

The whole idea of "living to fight another day" is to do just that: LIVE to fight another day, and another after that, and so on. If you die in the process so be it, but suicidal missions may make a splash yet really have no long-term benefit. The Jews in the ghetto knew it was a last stand, in fact they wanted "....to choose the time and place of our death". Different situation altogether than I was referring to.

[Honu]

OK this is my never say never and exactly how they will start this nonsense
no its not law yet but can see it creeping in to law
and of course remember what is hate speech ? well anything conservative of course

Brooklyn borough president Eric Adams (D) and New York State Sen. Kevin Parker (D-21) are both pushing to require a social media background check before allowing individuals to purchase firearms.

The social media/search engine background check would be seeking out certain forms of hate speech and other indicators that would be used to deny the exercise of Second Amendment rights to would-be gun buyers.

WCBS 880 quotes Adams saying, “A three-year review of a social media profile would give an easy profile of a person who is not suitable to hold and possess a firearm.”

[RazorBurn]

Not sure of your point, but I don't think that's what Yoni was referring to. The Warsaw Ghetto was surrounded and enclosed by superior forces. The scale of what I was referring to encompasses an entire nation (and one MUCH bigger than Poland), not an isolated, cut-off ghetto.

The whole idea of "living to fight another day" is to do just that: LIVE to fight another day, and another after that, and so on. If you die in the process so be it, but suicidal missions may make a splash yet really have no long-term benefit. The Jews in the ghetto knew it was a last stand, in fact they wanted "....to choose the time and place of our death". Different situation altogether than I was referring to.

My point is compromise which the Jews certainly thought would work did not lead to them being able "to fight another day". They would have been better off fleeing to somewhere safer. Then again there weren't that many nations at the time willing to take them in. So they were stuck taking whatever deal they could get which was in a nutshell: we're gonna assign you where you can live, take away your means of livelihood, then we're gonna take away all your shit even the gold fillings from your teeth, and then on top of that exterminate you. That's some seriously grim shit right there, and it's happened everywhere that socialism has taken hold. Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, etc...

Yes the Warsaw ghetto fought, but they're failure had much to do with their hope of Russian support that never happened more than anything. No doubt it was their last resort, but imagine if the Jews of Europe had a magic ball and could have seen what was coming down the pike in the 1920's and early 1930's. Do you think they and the rest of Europe would have done things differently? I would hope so!

No thank you. I'll pass on a helping of that shit sandwich. We should all be vigilant to prevent anything like this from happening again. Make no mistake they fear us and our guns as they know with us law abiding gun owners and the Constitution they can't take the power away from the people by outright force. Once we are disarmed we will be their prey. It will not go down easy and soft. It will go down just like the Night of the Long Knives. BAM they'll be beating down doors to take away our shit and slitting our throats before anyone can organize and assemble. The organization will happen underground once everyone has been alarmed that shit has gone south hard and fast in the first wave.

Don't get me wrong, I understand "living to fight another day". Unfortunately if I learned anything from the Obama administration is that we're not as far from the left taking over as we thought we were. And they have learned with the Trump administration that they weren't as close as they thought they were either. Imagine what our life would be like two years into a Clinton administration. IMHO we dodged one hell of a bullet there. I hope we dodge another in three days too!