So is it more important that the first shot landed crush more tissue?
Or that you have more shots available to shoot that crush less tissue?
Is the 45acp obsolete, is a silly question, of course it isn't obsolete too many guns in the hands of American gun owners.
Is the 45acp, better than a 9mm, I don't think so based on my life experience.
If we were faced with 10 round limits, then make mine either 9mm or .357 sig.
The question isnt which one causes more tissue damage.. That's easy, the 45 does. The question is does that extra tissue damage actually make a big difference in stopping a fight? The consensus has been "not really"
Solid hits on organs and major blood vessels can cause very rapid blood loss, loss of blood pressure, and unconsciousness. A slightly wider bullet nicking an artery or organ can definitely cause someone to bleed to death, but it's unlikely to be a fight stopper.
The reason why more ammo and lower recoil are sought after is that it gives more more opportunities and faster follow up shots to land GOOD hits in those vital structures inside the body.
C co 1/30th Infantry Regiment
3rd Brigade 3rd Infantry Division
2002-2006
OIF 1 and 3
IraqGunz:
No dude is going to get shot in the chest at 300 yards and look down and say "What is that, a 3 MOA group?"
Mass will say that everyone should carry single shot 22shorts if you pay him enough. His spreading bs that you shouldn’t carry sd rounds you handloaded was my first turn off from him. His lies for money have been repeated ad nauseam across the web for decades. Is the 45 irrelevant? No. Is mass becoming irrelevant? Yes and has been for awhile.
He’s ever only been able to cite one case of being charged with murder from using hand loads. And it was a guy who shot someone in their bedroom, and the revolver was loaded with different rounds, because he was supposedly going out to test them. So they couldn’t determine the distances because none were the same. It’s the only case that it’s been an issue, of thousands and thousands of self defense cases. That one is the only one where it’s pointed to that I’ve seen.
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I like the idea of a lighter weight, inexpensive, (180-200 gr) .45 flat-nosed bullet.
A 200 gr bullet at 900 fps is pretty pleasant to shoot It will cut a good hole and penetrate well. Bullets that miss and strike buildings or cars down range will be less likely to penetrate than a faster bullet.
I don't think it's a bad choice in this age of expensive ammo and shortage of premium bullets.
lead, non jacket.
Way back when I figured worst-case no ammo situation owing to government decree, economic collapse, what-have-you.
I could cast my own out of wheel weights & plumbers solder if that's what I had to do.
That & the cast lead worked fine as well as being lower cost to purchase. I also figured it being basically the same as jacketed ball ammo minus the jacket, what's the difference in it's killing ability? Semi-flat nose probably would not just punch through, it'd tend to smash it's way through as did the minie bullet.
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