Open carry and shooting oneself in the foot

[AndyLate]

Oh sorry. I was drawing a rather direct parallel unintentionally. But I have seen some sloppy slinging before.

My mind works in weird ways. You post was solid.

[Hmac]

Out of site, of mind. Open carry in the face of a largely anti-gun public accomplishes nothing positive and harms the cause. Don't do it.

[jsbhike]

Out of site, of mind. Open carry in the face of a largely anti-gun public accomplishes nothing positive and harms the cause. Don't do it.

I don't think it makes a difference one way or the other with that segment of the population. Open carry is mostly a recent occurrence, but the anti gun crusade goes back a century and a half.

If the subservient approach was going to pay off it would have done so long ago.

Blacks figured out that was never going anywhere also. They were openly violating laws on how they were to behave in public which enraged their opposition (private sector and public). They were obviously going looking for attention and they sure got it as seen from the film footage of the fire hosings, dog attacks, and generally getting assaulted. Were the blacks wrong in engaging in that behavior?

[SteyrAUG]

Out of site, of mind. Open carry in the face of a largely anti-gun public accomplishes nothing positive and harms the cause. Don't do it.

Again, very zip code dependent. Just like everything else. OC where nobody is "triggered"by the sight of a firearm and no big deal. Go to CA and if people find out you even own a gun, most won't let their kids play at your house.

At what point does kowtowing to that mindset become counter productive? If they are openly gay, then I'm openly armed. They can also just deal with it.

[AndyLate]

Out of site, of mind. Open carry in the face of a largely anti-gun public accomplishes nothing positive and harms the cause. Don't do it.

If the public is already anti gun, then no harm can come of it.

Andy

[Coal Dragger]

Lotsa people open carry in South Dakota, ain't no thang !

Can confirm. Same for Wyoming.

No one even cares as far as I can tell.

[THCDDM4]

Open carry has its place for sure. I’m always at a loss as to why so many seemingly “pro gun” folks are so against it.

If it’s being done in a douchey fashion, sure I understand the view of it in a negative light. But I’d wager that’s a smaller percentage of OC’rs than most perceive.

It’s either a right or it isn’t. Do what you want, but the stigma surrounding Oc by even the “pro gun” crowd is just annoying.

[SteyrAUG]

Open carry has its place for sure. I’m always at a loss as to why so many seemingly “pro gun” folks are so against it.

If it’s being done in a douchey fashion, sure I understand the view of it in a negative light. But I’d wager that’s a smaller percentage of OC’rs than most perceive.

It’s either a right or it isn’t. Do what you want, but the stigma surrounding Oc by even the “pro gun” crowd is just annoying.

I think OC activists are more a problem than people who OC.

It's an even bigger problem when OC activists groups gather at a business without prior arrangement / consent and force the business owner to choose which customers he is going to cater to, and the activists almost always lose.

When idiots started showing up in Starbucks with slung rifles what did they think would happen. Especially if members look sorta sketchy it makes it worse.

When most people see a group of 4 people wearing khakis and shirt and tie or polo with holstered handguns they assume off duty or some other kind of security occupation person. But if one guy has a neck tattoo, the girl has a green mohawk and another person has a nose ring...people assume they are probably going to shoot up a movie theater. It's even worse if they are slinging rifles.

Even actual LEOs aren't gonna sling carbines in a donut shop. And it's a good rule of thumb to follow that example. The exception would be IF it's actually hunting season and it's a diner KNOWN to cater to lunchtime hunters and even then it's usually cased rifles against the wall and even THAT is a bit uncommon these days and mostly a rural thing.

Other than that, discretion usually wins. Nobody needs to know it's an MP5k, I just tell them it's my laptop in that case that looks like a laptop computer case.

[jsbhike]

I think OC activists are more a problem than people who OC.

It's an even bigger problem when OC activists groups gather at a business without prior arrangement / consent and force the business owner to choose which customers he is going to cater to, and the activists almost always lose.

When idiots started showing up in Starbucks with slung rifles what did they think would happen. Especially if members look sorta sketchy it makes it worse.

When most people see a group of 4 people wearing khakis and shirt and tie or polo with holstered handguns they assume off duty or some other kind of security occupation person. But if one guy has a neck tattoo, the girl has a green mohawk and another person has a nose ring...people assume they are probably going to shoot up a movie theater. It's even worse if they are slinging rifles.

Even actual LEOs aren't gonna sling carbines in a donut shop. And it's a good rule of thumb to follow that example. The exception would be IF it's actually hunting season and it's a diner KNOWN to cater to lunchtime hunters and even then it's usually cased rifles against the wall and even THAT is a bit uncommon these days and mostly a rural thing.

Other than that, discretion usually wins. Nobody needs to know it's an MP5k, I just tell them it's my laptop in that case that looks like a laptop computer case.

And when open carry activists have informed everyone what, when, where, and why it has often been met with LE breaking the law without consequence.

Not really sure trying to be perceived as LE or security is any kind of overall benefit since that would only serve to perpetuate the only ones in the room professional enough to be armed ideology.

It took awhile, but I can't recall anyone flipping their wig when a black man walks in the front door of a restaurant and sits down to eat like everyone else.

[Hmac]

If the public is already anti gun, then no harm can come of it.

Andy

Except for the segment of the public that thought they were indifferent, or were on the fence.