I really like Pmags but the inconsistency is getting to me.

[17K]

I just wish they would make the 30s as consistently as the 40s. I have about a dozen 40s and they are perfect in all my lowers. I need to find my calipers and measure some mags.

[Tanner]

Interesting thread. I've used PMAGS for 15+ years and never had any issue with the AR mags. Ever. Multiple classes, range sessions, untold # of rounds. Same experience for my shooting buddies. Merely fortunate perhaps?

[AndyLate]

This is how rumors get perpetuated. Every Magpul firearm accessory is designed, tested, molded, and assembled in the US. Every. Single. One.

Thank you, succinct answer.

Andy

[AndyLate]

Interesting thread. I've used PMAGS for 15+ years and never had any issue with the AR mags. Ever. Multiple classes, range sessions, untold # of rounds. Same experience for my shooting buddies. Merely fortunate perhaps?

I have less experience but the same outcome.

Andy

[17K]

1) Pmags haven’t even been on the market for 13 years.

2) If you didn’t have issues with the very first ones, you didn’t run ‘em much.

I’m a Pmag believer, but I’m not gonna make excuses or lie about them. They haven’t been without their warts. I watched Gen 1s and 2s crack with regularity, and was an early adopter of the Gen M3 that proved absolutely unusable, but I stuck around and tried all the improved variants, and they have it going on now. I just wish they would make all of them the same size so that it would be easier to know if they’re going to be tight in a magwell or not.

[17K]

I just tried 12 of my friend’s GI MCT 30s with the windows and they all easily dropped free from the lowers that are tight with the non-windowed gen 3s.

[HKGuns]

I never understood how people preferred anything other than pmags. The only lowers I’ve had that wouldn’t drop them were/are Noveskes but that was fixed with the M3. I think I have maybe 30 M3s of black, coyote, and painted sand colors and every single one of them drops free in my current Noveske, BCM, Rainier, and multiple Aero lowers. USGI mags do as well but PMAGs are easier to load, unload, have a window, include storage caps, are easier to remove the baseplate, include a convenient numbering system, come in a logical color, and are easier to grip. Plus the only mags I’ve ever had feed issues with were USGI mags which are also far more difficult to distinguish good brands from bad brands.

I literally can not understand why anyone would prefer USGI mags.

I literally cannot understand why anyone would use anything BUT GI magazines.

Perhaps because until the Gen 3 was produced, they wouldn't fit into my HK rifles. HK took the brunt of the blame for that one, then low and behold the Gen 3's came out and were now "completely" STANAG compliant............Note this was GEN3.

I didn't have to replace ANY of my GI magazines or keep track of, or up with Generations of GI mags. They simply work in all of my lowers and have always worked.

Besides, they're just fricken magazines for pity sake. Let people buy and use and like what they want, its a free country, for now at least.

[HKGuns]

The A5? lol. Marketing bs.

I'd venture to say you are in the extreme minority on that one around these parts. Unless this place suddenly turned into TOS overnight.

[17K]

I'd venture to say you are in the extreme minority on that one around these parts. Unless this place suddenly turned into TOS overnight.

I stand firmly on my position on the A5. I tried it off an on for 12 years or so and have enough rounds on it in enough conditions, in enough guns to know without a shadow of a doubt that it is not as reliable as the carbine/H2 in any reasonable setup. There are a lot of very vocal A5 fans on this site, and that’s fine, I get why some people might like it, but a reliability upgrade it is not.

[Stickman]

My conclusions are based on the best information I have at the time, any valuable knowledge would be much appreciated.

Start a new thread in my section if you want to talk about it. I appreciate you not taking my comment the wrong way, as there was certainly no malice intended. We can jockey back and forth with some different ideas and angles of looking at things. You don't have a mentality that is wrong on a factual side, but if you are open to talk, I can explain to you what I have to a bunch of other guys (including group and swat).