Commercial carbine solicitation?

[RetroRevolver77]

Do you think that Third World troops can be successful in the long run with a weapon as intricate as the AR platform (when compared to the usual AK)? I guess maintenance would be my biggest question.

No, that's why we give them AR's.

[sinister]

M16s/M4s can last a very, very long time.

Lots of folks go ga-ga stoopid watching IDF threads, looking for older/legacy M16A1 rifle and carbine derivatives. The Philippines has weapons built in the 70s.

The Air Force has hundreds of over-stamped M16A1 derivative carbines they call GAU-5s and GUU-5s. Both the Army and Navy have thousands of M16A1s in war-storage.

Third-world M16:

[ABNAK]

M16s/M4s can last a very, very long time.

Lots of folks go ga-ga stoopid watching IDF threads, looking for older/legacy M16A1 rifle and carbine derivatives. The Philippines has weapons built in the 70s.

The Air Force has hundreds of over-stamped M16A1 derivative carbines they call GAU-5s and GUU-5s. Both the Army and Navy have thousands of M16A1s in war-storage.

Third-world M16:

Funny you mention that pic. It reminds me of a Karen pic years ago from Burma (Myanmar nowadays) where some toothless tribesman had an M16A1 over his shoulder with the FSB and spots on the barrel rusting. I remember thinking that if an AR platform weapon could remain functional that long in a tropical, humid, jungled environment that it had to be durable. No doubt with Third World maintenance to boot.

I spent 3 years in Panama as a grunt so I can vouch for tropical conditions, but we eventually checked our weapons into an arms room after a thorough cleaning. Those Karen fighters didn't have an arms room, and had been at it for years.

[Grand58742]

M16s/M4s can last a very, very long time.

Lots of folks go ga-ga stoopid watching IDF threads, looking for older/legacy M16A1 rifle and carbine derivatives. The Philippines has weapons built in the 70s.

The Air Force has hundreds of over-stamped M16A1 derivative carbines they call GAU-5s and GUU-5s. Both the Army and Navy have thousands of M16A1s in war-storage.

Third-world M16:

The Navy at Tinker has some M4 rebuilds in the armory that were H&R lowers. Until that time, I didn't even know anyone other than Colt, FN and Armalite had produced the M16 FOW for the .mil.

[ABNAK]

The Navy at Tinker has some M4 rebuilds in the armory that were H&R lowers. Until that time, I didn't even know anyone other than Colt, FN and Armalite had produced the M16 FOW for the .mil.

The Hydra-Matic Division of General Motors also made M16A1's for the U.S. military.

[T2C]

The Navy at Tinker has some M4 rebuilds in the armory that were H&R lowers. Until that time, I didn't even know anyone other than Colt, FN and Armalite had produced the M16 FOW for the .mil.

Our agency received rebuilt M16A1's through the DOD LE program. Two rifles I saw had well worn PWA lower receivers.

[Grand58742]

The Hydra-Matic Division of General Motors also made M16A1's for the U.S. military.

Yeah, I started looking it up in the aftermath.

I did have a four digit serial number M16 when I was stationed in Iceland.

[mack7.62]

Do you think that Third World troops can be successful in the long run with a weapon as intricate as the AR platform (when compared to the usual AK)? I guess maintenance would be my biggest question.

I remember in some 80's SOF magazine they had pictures of Viet Nam captured M16's either given or sold real cheap to South American commie insurgents. Evidently they liked a mag well hold as a few were eaten clean through on front of mag well from sweat and tropic conditions, I am talking 1-2" holes all the way through the mag wells. But they still worked.

[Slater]

The Iraqi military has received substantial quantities of M16/M4's. Presumably they're working out for them.

[HCM]

The Navy at Tinker has some M4 rebuilds in the armory that were H&R lowers. Until that time, I didn't even know anyone other than Colt, FN and Armalite had produced the M16 FOW for the .mil.

First M16 I fired back in 1984 was an H&R.