Colorado, Magpul and the Second Amendment Need Your Help

[THCDDM4]

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Colorado ballot proposal aimed at undoing ammunition magazine limits

[gunrunner505]

Every group would go broke in an attempt to ruin him. He made 5B last year, imagine 5B!

When you have that kind of money you're not an idiot, you're eccentric.

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[thopkins22]

It's unfortunate that the 363 days last year that did not include a high-profile mass shooting by an insane individual received less attention than the 2 days that did.

It's human nature. The negative always sticks around in the mind much more permanently and always at the forefront as opposed to positive things.

Politics, relationships, safety, you name it. We're great at remembering the negatives even when it's a statistical blip compared to the positive.

We're one of the safest countries in the world, and unless you live in one of a few bad neighborhoods in a few bad cities we're just about the safest country in the world...at a time when it's never been safer to be alive anywhere on the face of the planet. One or two statistically insignificant events and all of a sudden those that favor the nanny state think it's too dangerous to let their children go to school or see a movie.



There have been a couple of great studies on what's been dubbed the "dictator gene." Having it didn't mean that you would for sure be a dictator(or even want to be one) but that you would want to live in a world of excessive rules and had no problem being told what to do nor telling people what to do. The left is filled with people with that gene, and a few republicans like John McCain and some of the social warriors no doubt have it too. Most republicans and libertarians? Not so much....

Those with the dictator gene are the ones that the propaganda and fear mongering works super effectively on.

[Jer]

There have been a couple of great studies on what's been dubbed the "dictator gene." Having it didn't mean that you would for sure be a dictator(or even want to be one) but that you would want to live in a world of excessive rules and had no problem being told what to do nor telling people what to do. The left is filled with people with that gene, and a few republicans like John McCain and some of the social warriors no doubt have it too. Most republicans and libertarians? Not so much....

Those with the dictator gene are the ones that the propaganda and fear mongering works super effectively on.

The Republicans are creating just as many if not MORE controlling laws than the Democrats so I'm sure Libertarians would appreciate you not lumping them in the same group as Republicans.

[thopkins22]

The Republicans are creating just as many if not MORE controlling laws than the Democrats so I'm sure Libertarians would appreciate you not lumping them in the same group as Republicans.

I was referencing the voting public when I said that(and I believe that when referring to the voters it's true.) I can see that given the context of the rest of my post how you interpreted it that way. There are however a lot of good republicans in office standing up for what's right...particularly compared to how many there were five or six years ago.

But as a full fledged libertarian, Reason Magazine subscriber, and CATO reader I hear what you're saying and largely agree. I'm still waiting on the Republican Party to give up the social issues...it would be a real force for limited government and damn near a shoe in for every election then.

I know lots of "moderate" democrats who are only democrats because they can't/won't support the social "conservatism." I only know a few Republicans that wouldn't be Republicans without it...many of whom are libertarians and are either too pragmatic or don't know it yet. This is actually super true amongst a lot of gays and women...the tendency to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

[glocktogo]

I was referencing the voting public when I said that(and I believe that when referring to the voters it's true.) I can see that given the context of the rest of my post how you interpreted it that way. There are however a lot of good republicans in office standing up for what's right...particularly compared to how many there were five or six years ago.

But as a full fledged libertarian, Reason Magazine subscriber, and CATO reader I hear what you're saying and largely agree. I'm still waiting on the Republican Party to give up the social issues...it would be a real force for limited government and damn near a shoe in for every election then.

I know lots of "moderate" democrats who are only democrats because they can't/won't support the social "conservatism." I only know a few Republicans that wouldn't be Republicans without it...many of whom are libertarians and are either too pragmatic or don't know it yet. This is actually super true amongst a lot of gays and women...the tendency to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

And yet I had this very conversation as I tried to make a small change to my county GOP platform document. You'd have thought I just crucified Christ himself. I tried to explain that it had nothing to do with good governance and was instead a social responsiblity within the community. They acted like if we took it out, churchgoing Christians would suddenly stop voting.

[MAP]

When you have that kind of money you're not an idiot, you're eccentric.

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Bloomberg is quoted today as saying what he invested so far in these efforts is "putting his toe in the water" Financially we can't compete with Bloomberg. That doesn't mean we don't continue to fight. Call him whatever you want he is waging an effective war, so far.

Mike

[Crow Hunter]

Every group would go broke in an attempt to ruin him. He made 5B last year, imagine 5B!

I don't think most people can even comprehend it.

$1M has 10 $100,000 in it.

A person could live quite comfortably in most of the US with $100,000 a year income. Heck, I could live comfortably on $50k.

So most people could live 10-20 years on just $1M discounting inflation/taxes of course for demonstration purposes.

$1B has 1,000 $1M in it. So that is 10,000-20,000 YEARS worth. Pretty much longer than most known civilization has existed.

$5B is enough to live longer than modern humans have walked the earth.....

It is no wonder people like him have a "god complex".

[gunrunner505]

It is no wonder people like him have a "god complex".

Bloombergistan....

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[spr1]

Awesome letter. This kind of thing can offset some of Bloomberg's wealth.



Dear Senator King;
I met you yesterday after the so-called "public hearings" on the antigun bills; as I mentioned, I am an Executive Producer for OUTDOOR CHANNEL. I currently have four series in production, included GUN STORIES, the top show on OC, with several additional series in development. My series focus on guns, hunting, shooting and the outdoors.

This morning I met with my three Producers, and we made the decision that if these antigun bills become law, we will be moving all of our production OUT of Colorado. We have already cancelled a scheduled filming session for late this month. Obviously, part of this is due to our own commitment to the right to keep and bear arms, but it also reflects 3 lawyers' opinions that these laws are so poorly drafted and so designed to trap otherwise legal citizens into a crime (one of our attorneys referred to them as "flypaper laws") that it is simply too dangerous for us to film here.

I can give you chapter and verse on the legal implications if you need, but suffice to say that the first legal opinion was so scary we went out and got two others. Al three attorneys agreed.

We are relatively small potatoes in television, but our relocation of production will cost Colorado a little less than a million dollars in 2013.

Secondly, we have proudly promoted Colorado in our productions (and have been moving more and more production into the state); now we will do exactly the opposite.
What does this mean for Colorado? The community of television producers is a small one. Last week I had lunch with a major network producer who was looking to locate his new reality series in Colorado. That producer is also a shooter, and the new reality series will now be based out of Phoenix. That lunch cost Colorado over a million in economic impact.

Thirdly, according to numbers I received from the National Shooting Sports Foundation (for whom I used to work) yesterday, hunting had an almost $800,000,000 impact on Colorado in 2012, driving as many as 8330 jobs. Next month I will be in Texas meeting with most of the top outdoor/hunting producers, and the Number One agenda item will be Colorado. Already, hunting organizations and statewide hunting clubs around the country are pulling out of Colorado, and we expect this trend to accelerate rapidly.

The message we will take to our viewers and listeners is that these proposed laws are so dangerous to hunters and any other person, be she a fisherman or a skier who brings a handgun into the state for self-defense, that we cannot recommend hunting, fishing or visiting Colorado. We reach millions of people, and, quite frankly, we have a credibility that Colorado government officials can no longer match. Colorado Division of Wildlife is already running ads trying to bring more out-of-state hunters to Colorado...in light of the flood of negative publicity about these proposed laws, I can assure you those ads will fail.

We estimate that as many as one-quarter to one-third of out-of-state hunters will desert Colorado in the next 18-24 months, which will quite frankly be a disaster for the hunting industry in Colorado and have a devastating effect on our western and northern communities (certainly like Grand Junction).

This is not a "boycott" in the traditional sense of a centralized, organized operation; rather, it is more of a grassroots decision on where shooters, hunters and other sportsmen are willing to spend their money. Look at the collapse of the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show in February. That venerable multimillion dollar trade show chose to ban modern sporting rifles and standard capacity magazines, and with three weeks it collapsed as all vendors and sponsors pulled out.

Colorado is going to pay a huge price for laws that will do nothing.

Thank you, sir, for your support.

Best.
Michael Bane
OUTDOOR CHANNEL