I was issued a Galco Miami classic when overseas years ago. We used them with our issued G17's when driving. The thin straps we had dug into my shoulders. The G17 stuck out like crazy with my 5-9 160 pound body size under the issued banana republic vest. Also for me if I didn't have the holster secured to my belt it flopped all over the place when jumping in and out of vehicles and walking around.
Women seem to make the belly band work because they don't have a lot of belt options. Maybe something to try. David
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