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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    And the family and their lawyers will say the county/city coroner is a police lackey. I figure, for Joes like me, it's going to be difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, especially at a distance.
    I’m sure. But the county is the one filing against the cop and hired the initial autopsy. And the tox report is from the hospital and an outside lab. Can’t argue that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PracticalRifleman View Post
    I’m sure. But the county is the one filing against the cop and hired the initial autopsy. And the tox report is from the hospital and an outside lab. Can’t argue that.


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    Yeah, we'll have to see if the coroner, DA, and police all speak with one voice. Somehow I don't think they will. The hospital and lab will probably be called white supremicists in the end. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Yeah, we'll have to see if the coroner, DA, and police all speak with one voice. Somehow I don't think they will. The hospital and lab will probably be called white supremicists in the end. LOL
    Sad part is I sent the link to two icu physicians I know and both said he was going to die even if he didn’t have the LE encounter without immediate medical intervention. They were both social justice warrior types, ironically.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    The assumption is that all these different peoples and organizations, you and I have an at least similar understanding on what actual criminal behavior is. I'm not too sure at all that BLM and I do. You and I may be similar in our understanding, but others, less and less.
    I'm not saying according to one's understanding, I'm saying engaging in criminal activity which is pretty cut and dry.

    Buy a gun. OK
    Steal a gun. Not ok.

    Hate a person because they are black, white or whatever. OK.
    Hurt a person because they are black, white or whatever. Not Ok.

    Use a gun in justifiable defense. OK.
    Use a gun to kill somebody who was not a credible threat. Not ok.

    This is actually pretty simple stuff that is pretty cut and dry. You are either engaged in illegal activity or you are not. One might THINK they have the right to manufacture an unregistered machine gun and I might agree that is what the constitution intended, but the actual laws of the land will disagree with you. So as much as I'd love to dremel tool some HK packs for a bunch of PTR guns, there is something that keeps me from doing it and that is knowing the law of the land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    I can agree with the idea that all sorts of people or groups can be armed, but organizations like the KKK or communists were violent by nature, they were created to be violent. I , and maybe I missed it in history, have never heard of the peace loving KKK or the peace loving communists. I just hope BLM isn't of the same nature. I consider BLM to be Marxist in nature, so I have very little hope that they will ultimately be peaceful.
    So we have to allow for the unlikely.

    I think we both know the nature of the KKK, Weather Underground, Black Panthers and we can probably guess what BLM will mostly be like. But we still have to allow for the person who just doesn't like black people to the extent he joins the KKK BUT is unwilling to engage in any criminal activity of any kind. They participate in marches, say some vile shit and generally make life a little more sad...BUT...if they have the self control to not engage in criminal activity they can have a firearm just like any other law abiding citizen.

    Or to put it another way "if you can find one righteous man in a wicked city then at least he should be spared from destruction." I know I paraphrased that and please don't think I'm starting a discussion on theology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    The problem in this case is that BLM "peace officers" will no doubt designate themselves the determining individuals on whether or not somebody gets arrested. BLM leaders openly support armed robbery "as needed" by individuals who "need the money" (and yes, I can cite the section of Cullors book where she does endorse this). So, some dude robs a bunch of banks, kills a few armored car drivers, and so a SWAT comes to arrest him. BLM peace officers decide the robber had every right to do that, so now they're going to kill any cop who comes to arrest the robber. If the cops catch the robber outside the "no go" zones, now the peace officers decide they can retaliate: Kill the cops who arrested him and spring the guy from the jail.

    These people will be a terrorist group. I have no problem with real self defense groups, but BLM peace officers won't be among them.
    Not sure that will actually happen even in CA or we'd have deputized Black Panther Safety Patrols already. I'm sure some batshit insane congresswomen will introduce the idea in the form of legislation, but it won't go anywhere and it's right up there with FEMA camps, politically supported white nationalist groups developing drugs that sterilize minorities and other moonbattery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    So we have to allow for the unlikely.

    I think we both know the nature of the KKK, Weather Underground, Black Panthers and we can probably guess what BLM will mostly be like. But we still have to allow for the person who just doesn't like black people to the extent he joins the KKK BUT is unwilling to engage in any criminal activity of any kind. They participate in marches, say some vile shit and generally make life a little more sad...BUT...if they have the self control to not engage in criminal activity they can have a firearm just like any other law abiding citizen.

    Or to put it another way "if you can find one righteous man in a wicked city then at least he should be spared from destruction." I know I paraphrased that and please don't think I'm starting a discussion on theology.
    I certainly agree. I'm not advocating pre-crime here. Like every other sketchy group we'll have to wait and see.

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    Send BLM to Chicago to stop the black on black murders, where black bodies stack up like cordwood week after week and year after year, and where there seems to be little outrage or protesting. I guess black on black murders count far, far less than white on black ones.

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    BLM can arm up, militarize all they want. If they get in the way of voting locations, freedom of movement or commerce for citizens in general, they will run into problems. But just like the Black Panthers, they're too small to make any credible difference in the big scheme of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I'm not saying according to one's understanding, I'm saying engaging in criminal activity which is pretty cut and dry.

    Buy a gun. OK
    Steal a gun. Not ok.

    Hate a person because they are black, white or whatever. OK.
    Hurt a person because they are black, white or whatever. Not Ok.

    Use a gun in justifiable defense. OK.
    Use a gun to kill somebody who was not a credible threat. Not ok.

    This is actually pretty simple stuff that is pretty cut and dry. You are either engaged in illegal activity or you are not. One might THINK they have the right to manufacture an unregistered machine gun and I might agree that is what the constitution intended, but the actual laws of the land will disagree with you. So as much as I'd love to dremel tool some HK packs for a bunch of PTR guns, there is something that keeps me from doing it and that is knowing the law of the land.
    That's the problem though. It seems simple to most people, maybe even to most leftists, but the rub is, do orgs like BLM think it's criminal. Reading BG45 post on a bit of what people in BLM advocate it sounds like they think criminal behavior, isn't.

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