The New Whats Wrong with the Russian Army

[georgeib]

I read an article a while ago written by an former SEAL regarding the efficacy of sanctions. His take was that they don't work, as evidenced by the fact... well that they don't work. He explained that they pretty much serve to entrench the political base and power of the people in charge. He mentioned Cuba, North Korea, and Iran as examples. He made solid points.

He suggested that the way to truly effect "regime change" was to open up imports, in the target countries. And basically show the populace what they're missing, and that they themselves would initiate the change from a grassroots organic effort.

I expect sanctions on Russia to work no better than they have any other time they've been tried. They will serve to consolidate Putin's base, and prove to them that the West is not their friend. Those in charge will use this momentum to consolidate greater control and ally with others against us. They will increase their efforts to undermine us internationally, and will do everything they can to accelerate the already inevitable $ collapse.

The people running this country will get the destruction of America they've been working so diligently towards. Useful idiots in tow.

[tn1911]

Russia Threatens Poland with Nuclear Strike

https://news.yahoo.com/foreign-minis...131547257.html

[Alpha-17]

I read an article a while ago written by an former SEAL regarding the efficacy of sanctions. His take was that they don't work, as evidenced by the fact... well that they don't work. He explained that they pretty much serve to entrench the political base and power of the people in charge. He mentioned Cuba, North Korea, and Iran as examples. He made solid points.

I tend to agree with that. Sanctions have a piss-poor track record. Of course, I don't think open trading does a damn thing either, because the tyrants in power will just take credit for the increase in goods and standard of living.

Another good analysis by Perun, is this one of the issues of infantry shortage that even the most rabid propagandist has to admit hurt the Russians early on. Even with all the talk of artillery dominating the current battle in the Donbas region, it warms my infantryman's cold heart to hear even a civilian recognize the crucial role grunts play.

[mack7.62]

Well the Ruskies are in trouble now, the M14 has shown up.

[DG23]

Well the Ruskies are in trouble now, the M14 has shown up.

You keep saying they are in trouble but the Ukrainians are the ones that keep losing ground and surrendering in mass...

A waste of good rifles is all we just did.

[mack7.62]

Oh I don't think killing Russian invaders is such a waste and they didn't get them from the US, we gave the Balkan States around 160,000 during the late 90's.

[Alpha-17]

You keep saying they are in trouble but the Ukrainians are the ones that keep losing ground and surrendering in mass...

A waste of good rifles is all we just did.

We're letting obsolete rifles have a chance to do what they were designed to do, kill Russians. Not seeing the waste. Certainly better than letting them sit in storage.

[DG23]

We're letting obsolete rifles have a chance to do what they were designed to do, kill Russians. Not seeing the waste. Certainly better than letting them sit in storage.

Russian speaking civilians that actually LIVE and reside in the area (as they have for many, many, many years) or actual combat troops that came over recently from Russia proper? (no doubt in my mind that you know the truthful answer but will not dare speak of it)





Currently about 2,500 Ukrainian troops are encircled by Russian armed forces and sheltering in underground bunkers at the Azot plant in Severodonetsk. (Does this sound familiar to you?)



No chance of retreat or resupply for any of them as the Russians pretty much have fire control of / on every road around them AND air superiority... All of that AND the nearby bridge that other Ukrainians blew up to HELP prevent any retreat or resupply...

Like last time (the Azovstal steel plant being the most recent example), these Ukraine troops are intentionally holding civilians down there with them and refusing to allow them (the civilians) to leave as they are nothing more than human shields to the cowardly Ukraine forces. (Yes, Only cowards hide behind civilians)


In a week or two Zelensky will reluctantly (just like last time) announce they have been 'successfully extracted'.
(to Russian captivity )




Picture those cubs as the Russian speaking people that LIVE in those particular regions (that declared independence from the ****ery that is Ukraine BTW) and the spear as some weapon that the US, NATO, or Britain drug out from the closet to send to them to 'help' them out...

Notice how the US, NATO (not ALL of NATO but most of them), and Britain are hiding behind that rock and won't actually get on up in there and stand 'side by side' with their 'friend' Ukraine while he screws with that bear?


Aside of the banning of pretty much any and all opposition parties - the Zelensky regime not allowing any 'breathing' males to even leave the country (You are in the ARMY now boy / old man! ) speaks volumes about what the actual citizens of Ukraine really want here.

Hint: When your 'leaders' have to use special decrees / laws and force against the local citizenry to be able to even get them to stay in the country, AND to have to use even more force to get them to get their asses out there on the front lines and really fight for them - Something is definitely wrong with your 'leaders'...

[Wake27]

Russian speaking civilians that actually LIVE and reside in the area (as they have for many, many, many years) or actual combat troops that came over recently from Russia proper? (no doubt in my mind that you know the truthful answer but will not dare speak of it)





Currently about 2,500 Ukrainian troops are encircled by Russian armed forces and sheltering in underground bunkers at the Azot plant in Severodonetsk. (Does this sound familiar to you?)



No chance of retreat or resupply for any of them as the Russians pretty much have fire control of / on every road around them AND air superiority... All of that AND the nearby bridge that other Ukrainians blew up to HELP prevent any retreat or resupply...

Like last time (the Azovstal steel plant being the most recent example), these Ukraine troops are intentionally holding civilians down there with them and refusing to allow them (the civilians) to leave as they are nothing more than human shields to the cowardly Ukraine forces. (Yes, Only cowards hide behind civilians)


In a week or two Zelensky will reluctantly (just like last time) announce they have been 'successfully extracted'.
(to Russian captivity )




Picture those cubs as the Russian speaking people that LIVE in those particular regions (that declared independence from the ****ery that is Ukraine BTW) and the spear as some weapon that the US, NATO, or Britain drug out from the closet to send to them to 'help' them out...

Notice how the US, NATO (not ALL of NATO but most of them), and Britain are hiding behind that rock and won't actually get on up in there and stand 'side by side' with their 'friend' Ukraine while he screws with that bear?


Aside of the banning of pretty much any and all opposition parties - the Zelensky regime not allowing any 'breathing' males to even leave the country (You are in the ARMY now boy / old man! ) speaks volumes about what the actual citizens of Ukraine really want here.

Hint: When your 'leaders' have to use special decrees / laws and force against the local citizenry to be able to even get them to stay in the country, AND to have to use even more force to get them to get their asses out there on the front lines and really fight for them - Something is definitely wrong with your 'leaders'...

Jesus Christ just stop. You don’t know anywhere near as much as you think you do and the bullshit you just keep pushing isn’t convincing anyone.

You’ve been wrong in such critical ways that it’s actually starting to blow my mind how stubborn you are because you won’t even admit that you were wrong even though it’s in this thread.

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[mack7.62]

Hey DG things are going so well that the Commanding General of the VDV (Russian Airborne Forces) just "retired" sure sign they are winning.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1537693387494674432

Rob Lee
@RALee85
A VDV VK page and one of the moderators of the Lost Armour website are both claiming that Andrey Serdyukov has been replaced by Colonel-General Mikhail Teplinskiy as the commander of the Russian VDV. (h/t
@666_mancer
)
https://vk.com/russia_desant?w=wall-106160452_311357