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I did some playing around one time with my Beretta hammer springs to see how light I could go before primers would not light off properly and got to the bottom (lowest weight) of my calibration pack and still had no issues with CCI 400 SRPrimed brass. Want to say that was an 11 or 12lb spring weight. Normal being a 20lb spring and 'D' spring being 16lbs.
Have not tried with 41's to see how much harder they were (hammer spring wise) than the regular 400's which is why I asked...
I thought my Beretta trigger was ungodly light with the 12lb spring and went back up to the 'D' weight (16lb) but it for sure would light off any SPPrimers with the 12 in there. I was doing my testing with SRP's...
Your pistol has got to be light as heck if not lighting the CCI pistol primers.
41's being SR and hard, 400's being SR and less hard than 41's, CCI small pistol primers being softer than that even, and then the Federal primers being well known to be some of the (more like THE softest) softest around.
Guessing that is trigger pull weight?
Numbers I gave before were hammer spring weights.
The corresponding trigger 'pull' weights that I 'averaged' between a few different 92's I have with the different hammer springs were:
About 10.5lbs DA and 5lbs SA with an 'F' spring of 20lbs.
About 9lbs DA and 4lbs SA with a 'D' spring of 16lbs.
And about 7.5lbs DA and 3lbs SA with the lightest hammer springs in my kit of IIRC 12lbs.
Appreciate your data points here with respect to 'what will light off what' for you in your firearm.
Yes those are trigger pull weights. I didn’t do spring weights because main, firing pin, etc are all changed and each contributed. Also they are shadows so not relevant to any other gun. The mods are pretty common on these and it’s almost universal that nobody has problems with Federal SP primers. I do run CCI for my defensive guns’ practice ammo and even my Sig Legion for Carry Optics with no problems if that’s all I can find. But When I can find Feds it works for everything. Thanks for the info on the Beretta as well. I’ve been eyeing the LTT, but I’m so deep in these guns not sure I want to add a new platform for mags and holsters. But something special about them…
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Beretta is similar in the respect that there are a few different springs that 'contribute' to the overall pull weight (trigger return springs can be had in several different weights for example) but...
The reality is that (at least in the case of 92's) you better have a very, very good quality scale to be able to tell a difference in trigger pull weight going back and forth between a reduced power trigger return spring and an extra power trigger return spring.
The difference in trigger pull weights with changes like that are measured in ounces and not in lbs.
The hammer spring is the biggie here.
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