Anyone see the new Hungarian FEG SVD yet?

[ABNAK]

2000 is because we only have labor for the summer and spring 2020.

We are small right now and we only are building to order.

I can't regulate prices as that is fixed also.

This is a very expensive system to produce.

This isn't stamped sheet metal and nothing is caste like the US stuff.

But prices can come down once its setup nicely.

But the 100 coming in will only be unique.

You set the price it is sold to the dealers for. They will be the ones making sure it's $4K or more. Reading the thread on AKForum the price is bandied about, with no clear picture as to what YOU will be selling them to dealers for. Can you elaborate? Is it going to be a $2000-$2500 rifle that greedy bastards will bilk for $4000? That's a pretty steep profit margin, right up there with HK 416 uppers and the like. The market will set what people will pay, and no doubt with only 100 teased at first there are those who will shell out $4K. However, in the long run (if that is even planned for) the sales at $4K will taper off as more hit the market.

[MountainRaven]

You set the price it is sold to the dealers for. They will be the ones making sure it's $4K or more. Reading the thread on AKForum the price is bandied about, with no clear picture as to what YOU will be selling them to dealers for. Can you elaborate? Is it going to be a $2000-$2500 rifle that greedy bastards will bilk for $4000? That's a pretty steep profit margin, right up there with HK 416 uppers and the like. The market will set what people will pay, and no doubt with only 100 teased at first there are those who will shell out $4K. However, in the long run (if that is even planned for) the sales at $4K will taper off as more hit the market.

People concerned about spending $4000 on a gun that might sell for $2750 three months later might just totally skip the first batch.

I think this is 110% a collectors item. I would be interested in having one, but I’m not spending $4000 on something I can’t carry every day (like a 1911 or a watch) and does nothing as well or better than comparably priced options on the market, except for being obsolescent.

[Bret]

If they went for $2K they'd easily triple their sales (is that better?).

If they'd triple their sales at half the price, that might not be a good decision. However, reality is that there is an exponential relationship between the sales price and the number of items sold. My guess based on buying guns for 30 years is that if the price is doubled, the number of potential buyers will be 1/10th what it was. If there are only 100, then they will eventually sell at $4000. If there are 2000, then the end price will likely end up being half that. They'd likely make more money selling 20 times as many at half the price. BTW, just so nobody thinks that I'm talking out my rear, I'm a degreed industrial engineer and run a factory that employs over 150 people. Of course that doesn't mean that I know about FEG's setup, but I do know a great deal about manufacturing theory and buying guns. I wish prdubi and FEG all the best success and thank them for their efforts.

[ABNAK]

People concerned about spending $4000 on a gun that might sell for $2750 three months later might just totally skip the first batch.

I think this is 110% a collectors item. I would be interested in having one, but I’m not spending $4000 on something I can’t carry every day (like a 1911 or a watch) and does nothing as well or better than comparably priced options on the market, except for being obsolescent.

Pretty much all of this. Indeed it is a collector's piece to be sure, and pretty cool no doubt, but not $4K cool.

[ABNAK]

If they'd triple their sales at half the price, that might not be a good decision. However, reality is that there is an exponential relationship between the sales price and the number of items sold. My guess based on buying guns for 30 years is that if the price is doubled, the number of potential buyers will be 1/10th what it was. If there are only 100, then they will eventually sell at $4000. If there are 2000, then the end price will likely end up being half that. They'd likely make more money selling 20 times as many at half the price. BTW, just so nobody thinks that I'm talking out my rear, I'm a degreed industrial engineer and run a factory that employs over 150 people. Of course that doesn't mean that I know about FEG's setup, but I do know a great deal about manufacturing theory and buying guns. I wish prdubi and FEG all the best success and thank them for their efforts.

LOL my dad was an industrial engineer for General Motors (Packard Electric to be more specific). Yeah, I think they'd be better off selling at way less than $4K but increasing production significantly. In the long run they make a name for themselves and their product as well as expanding that $4K "niche" group to several times the potential buyers. It would pay off with patience.

That said, FEG will *probably* not be selling them to dealers for $4K. It is the dealers who will be making the astronomical profit margin. Hey, it's a free-market system but eventually your niche group is gonna run dry. I don't have an issue with those dealers making however much they can (hey, it's Capitalism baby) but it won't last forever on the same product.

If I was gonna do a "one-off" production run and make as much $$$ as I could doing it, then limiting production numbers for that niche item would definitely be the way to go. Long-term you're screwed at those prices but in the immediate future? CHA-CHING!!!

[SteyrAUG]

You set the price it is sold to the dealers for. They will be the ones making sure it's $4K or more. Reading the thread on AKForum the price is bandied about, with no clear picture as to what YOU will be selling them to dealers for. Can you elaborate? Is it going to be a $2000-$2500 rifle that greedy bastards will bilk for $4000? That's a pretty steep profit margin, right up there with HK 416 uppers and the like. The market will set what people will pay, and no doubt with only 100 teased at first there are those who will shell out $4K. However, in the long run (if that is even planned for) the sales at $4K will taper off as more hit the market.

LOL. Except for the Great Obama Gun Sale, I have never sold ANYTHING with a $1,500 markup. If it's something in the dealer pipeline (in stock, available) the markups will be 10% at best no matter what it is. Even on things like Barrett M82A1s where the difference between dealer and MSRP was supposed to be about $1,000 I never once saw it happen and was lucky to get half of that which was about 10% above dealer.

[ABNAK]

LOL. Except for the Great Obama Gun Sale, I have never sold ANYTHING with a $1,500 markup. If it's something in the dealer pipeline (in stock, available) the markups will be 10% at best no matter what it is. Even on things like Barrett M82A1s where the difference between dealer and MSRP was supposed to be about $1,000 I never once saw it happen and was lucky to get half of that which was about 10% above dealer.

Well this is definitely a "niche" item with a limited initial production run, but we'd need to know what FEG's cost + profit is (i.e. what they go to dealers for). The speculation on the price has been up and down the spectrum so who knows.

Having been on the [foolish] buying end of 416 uppers I can tell you the seller didn't make just a 10% profit!

[RetroRevolver77]

Limit how many you bring in at a time. Put 25 up for sale with some kind of certificate of authenticity, neat box, and price them minimum at $4K to $5K each. Then every few months repeat until they are all sold. Make sure you have enough mags and accessories. No niche calibers either, keep them original. Everyone whose dumb enough to say they are $2K rifles- then go build one stateside, wait, you can't, so again price them accordingly for what is the last SVD variants to ever be imported.

[1168]

Limit how many you bring in at a time. Put 25 up for sale with some kind of certificate of authenticity, neat box, and price them minimum at $4K to $5K each. Then every few months repeat until they are all sold. Make sure you have enough mags and accessories. No niche calibers either, keep them original. Everyone whose dumb enough to say they are $2K rifles- then go build one stateside, wait, you can't, so again price them accordingly for what is the last SVD variants to ever be imported.

Anyone that is willing to spend more $600 bucks is either an idiot or a collector.

Prdubi, I wish you well in your enterprise. Its a cool rifle. I just take more interest in Commie tactics than tools. For putting in work, rather than LARPing or collecting, there are better choices at almost any price point.

[RetroRevolver77]

Anyone that is willing to spend more $600 bucks is either an idiot or a collector.

Or an investor considering the cheapest Chinese SVD's are going for over $8K with some Russian ones going for twice that.