Do you run your BCM VFG backwards?

[SteyrAUG]

Ya got me there.

Ok, gonna share some classified operator shit.

The VFG goes at 12 o clock. You grab with your non shooting hand, raise your thumb straight up and point your index finger at your target...you will now be DEAD ON. Yer welcome.

[utahjeepr]

No, no, no.

The real secret is to extend the pinky finger like an Englishman drinking tea. Etquitte and proper deportment are the key to success in any endeavor dontcha know.

[SteyrAUG]

No, no, no.

The real secret is to extend the pinky finger like an Englishman drinking tea. Etquitte and proper deportment are the key to success in any endeavor dontcha know.

Only works on Sten Grip hold, special SAS technique you probably shouldn't even be talking about.

[docsherm]

If so, why?

It feels incredibly unnatural to me and the guys who do it seem to have some sort of ego issues because they constantly talk about how awesome it is to run them backwards

I have never used one of those grips.... but I always use my LaRue FUG backwards. 100% of the time.

[ST911]

I have never used one of those grips.... but I always use my LaRue FUG backwards. 100% of the time.

I lol'ed.

[Pappabear]

I was watching Garand Thumb Sig Spear and it looked like to me the VFG was backwards, Im not 100% bc I just am not sure. Oh well, it's just a odd data point.

PB

[Outlander Systems]

I can answer the why. DM in-bound.

If so, why?

It feels incredibly unnatural to me and the guys who do it seem to have some sort of ego issues because they constantly talk about how awesome it is to run them backwards

[Sparky5019]

I can answer the why. DM in-bound.

Do tell…

[Outlander Systems]

The reason for the angle in the grip, and the correlation to biomechanics is actually pretty simple. Make two karate chop hands and hold them in front of you. As you extend them, you’ll find that your wrists naturally want to angle your hands downward the further away you extend them. This is called ulnar deviation. As you bring them closer to your body, you’ll find that they start to naturally drift upward. This is called radial deviation.

If your critical homies are running their VFGs on short 7” rails with their stocks fully collapsed, running the VFG “backwards” actually makes sense from a biomechanics standpoint (radial deviation). You’ll find a similar grip angle on the Brügger and Thomet TP9, which makes sense, as it’s an extremely compact weapon system. If they’re running them backwards on longer rails, more extended outward toward the muzzle, they’re using them inversely to biomechanics, as, at this point, they would be better off working *with* the wrist’s natural tendency for ulnar drift. It sounds like they may be supinating their wrists and using the VFG incorrectly.

Radial deviation of the wrist inward (closer - Abduction)
Ulnar deviation of the wrist outward (further - Adduction)

You can also see this phenomenon by making a thumbs up with your support hand and punching it away from you and pulling it back. You’ll see the natural deviation of the wrist at work going back and forth, and the option for an angle on the BCM VFG makes a lot more sense.

Do tell…

[Sparky5019]

All good sense from an anatomical perspective. I figured some of that was their reasoning. I honestly didn’t put THAT much mental effort into it but with my knowledge of anatomy and ergonomics it made sense. Thanks for sharing so everyone could benefit. I appreciate it.


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