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    The Service Animal Crap Has Got To Stop...

    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Woman boards plane with miniature horse. It's not novel, it's not cute, it's a ****ing horse...in the passenger compartment.

    https://www.today.com/pets/woman-fli...-horse-t161698

    I don't want to fly on a plane with a horse. Bad enough when somebodies "service animal" takes a shit, a piss or vomits in the aisle or on the seat next to you. This shit has gotten out of hand and people clap for it like it's a brave transgender person who decided to board the plane.

    Some people have legit service animals because of handicap or other legitimate need. My dog keeps me from being sad is not a legit need. More important, emotional support animals serve as distractions to legit service animals. Can you imagine somebody with a service dog that helps them with mobility trying to stay focused because there is an actual ****ing horse on the plane.

    And what did the dippy ****ing horse owner have to say afterwards?

    But Hensley says she won’t be purchasing another plane ticket anytime soon. Though Flirty was on her best behavior — she was quiet and took a long nap — Hensley found the experience to be nerve-wracking.

    “It’s just too difficult to make sure Flirty doesn’t inconvenience other passengers,” Hensley wrote on Twitter, noting that despite having bulkhead seats, “Flirty couldn’t help jostling” the seat of the person in the last row of first class.


    Bet that person with the first class ticket was thrilled to have a horse kicking their seat the whole damn flight so this stupid bitch could bring her horse friend on the plane.

    Remind me to never fly American Airlines again, and if I do make sure to inquire "will any horses be joining us on the flight? How about baboons? Squirrel monkeys? Bengal tigers?"
    The ADA only recognizes dogs and miniature horses as qualified legal service animals.

    So, you’re SOL.

    Some of y’all in this thread come across as arcanely close minded and it shows. Everyone’s all about freedom and liberty and doing right by others, until they’re not. Go figure.



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    Yep the FAA just OKed miniature horses for support animal in planes. In spite of fact that the rest of Fed govt only allows dogs as support animals in buildings etc.

    That is retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OH58D View Post
    The incidence of mental illness in the general population at-large is much higher than anyone could ever imagine. It runs from minor phobias, nervousness, triggered behavior to full-blown psychosis. One person's normalcy is another's odd behavior. Societies then establish rules to determine limits of what is acceptable.
    The prevalence rate of mental health issues in this country is terrifyingly high. It really is. It’s sad.


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    I like that. Imagine going to some place where they will allow your Dog, Goat or Ostrich as an emotional support critter, but you carry that pistol in that rig, you'll be escorted out at the least, or cuffed by a LEO after they show up. Dogs bite, crap on the floor - holstered pistols just sit there.


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    The TSA won't let me bring my Emotional Support Springer on the plane...

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    People taking advantage of the system just make it harder for those that truly need service animals. If you need an emotional support animal to get on an airplane, maybe you should consider driving to your destination. A couple of months ago we had a woman try to get on the airplane with her emotional support animal...a man. I sh!t you not. The the emotional support man got through security with out a ticket (another issue all together), but he was denied boarding by our ops agent. The woman of course threw a fit, threatened to sue the airline, yada, yada yada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    Fun story, I went to go visit my brother in San Francisco. I live on the east coast.

    Were out at this great beer hall, and we run into these two girls he knows. One of them has a nice dog with her, some sort of golden retriever mut I'd guess. It was a little smaller than a golden. So my brother see's these girls and before they make it to us my brother leans in and warns me "The blond girl is always on a ton of Xanex... and she gives it to the dog..." I'm just like WTF.

    So they come over and no sht, she and dog, as she confirms with out prompt are on Xanex. She then proceeds to do things like hug this dog and pick it up. All the while we were standing there at this bar. It was surreal.

    So the story comes out later from my brother that her long time boyfriend had died of cancer two years ago and this 5 year old dog was a dog they had gotten together. Its a sad story, I can see how this girl is fcked up. But... idk if she really needed the dog at the bar.

    We are all millennials in this story.
    So I would probably "no kidding" go back into my house if it was on fire to make sure and rescue my dogs. My dogs are pretty much family to me. But they don't go on car rides if they don't need to, they don't go with me to any place that serves food, they don't go with me to the store or anything like that. That is because of two things.

    1. There is a limit to normal. If I don't have an actual / factual legit need for a service dog I'm not going to inconvenience the entire world by bringing my dog with me simply because it makes me feel better and it's so easy to get an "emotional support" certification.

    2. My dog would rather be at home sleeping on the couch anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    It's because we have this huge pseudo scientific industrial complex called psychiatry/psychology run by the modern version of shamans. When you get down to it we're all mentally ill.

    People like the lady described are just grossly self centered and after years of societal indulgence, is it any wonder that people expect everyone else to join in her sin. We're becoming spoiled little children whose parents couldn't bring themselves to say "NO!" to their precious, can't do any WRONG, babies.
    I agree with all of that except the "we're all mentally ill" part. I don't even think most of us are mentally ill. A lot of people are, but certainly not everyone. I also don't consider things like over indulged, self centered or things like that to be a mental illness. They are more of a personal failure and a decision that is made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    The ADA only recognizes dogs and miniature horses as qualified legal service animals.

    So, you’re SOL.

    Some of y’all in this thread come across as arcanely close minded and it shows. Everyone’s all about freedom and liberty and doing right by others, until they’re not. Go figure.



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    I'm not close minded, but I'm gonna call BS when it's BS. I'm also not SOL, if I am thinking of flying I'll call and confirm if anyone is flying with a horse and if "yes" I'll book another flight with another carrier if need be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korgs130 View Post
    People taking advantage of the system just make it harder for those that truly need service animals. If you need an emotional support animal to get on an airplane, maybe you should consider driving to your destination. A couple of months ago we had a woman try to get on the airplane with her emotional support animal...a man. I sh!t you not. The the emotional support man got through security with out a ticket (another issue all together), but he was denied boarding by our ops agent. The woman of course threw a fit, threatened to sue the airline, yada, yada yada.
    I think supposed misuse will not have any effect. The reason? Culture and society have pretty much accepted this need of people lock stock and barrel. Who's going to step up, that anyone give a crap about what they say, and point out the infantile nature of most of this? Nobody, that's who. Soon the man you referred to will be allowed on. Nothing is too whacked....we must make allowances for all the "mentally ill" dont you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I'm not close minded, but I'm gonna call BS when it's BS. I'm also not SOL, if I am thinking of flying I'll call and confirm if anyone is flying with a horse and if "yes" I'll book another flight with another carrier if need be.
    Perhaps the thread title was worded incorrectly? The article leans towards it being an emotional support animal rather than a service animal.

    Trust me, I deal with this stuff day in and day out at my job. The problem is (with the law) is you are only able to ask two questions:

    1. Is this a service animal?

    Outside of said mini horse and a dog, the answer will always be no since those are the only two creatures allowed to be service animals. So, no such thing as a service cat or service snake or service turkey, etc.

    2. What service does it provide?

    Wording has to be accurate on this one since you start getting into HIPAA violations by asking pointed questions about a disability and get your ass sued off. Basically, those with service animals will tell you up front "yes, it is a service animal used as a guide dog" or "used to alert me to medical conditions." So on and so forth.

    Basically, blame the airlines for allowing emotional support animals on planes. That's where this starts.
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