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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Hey kwelz, know what? I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries (I voted for Cruz). But I did vote for Trump in the general.

    I HAVE ZERO REGRETS ABOUT MY CHOICE. NONE, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA.

    I absolutely LOVE the way he pisses off the libtards. Yes, his abrasive demeanor warms my heart. About time someone told those bastards what time it was. And the same with the rest of the world, f**k 'em.

    I will vote for Trump in 2020 in a heartbeat. If that makes YOUR head explode right along with the libs then TFB.
    Ahhh. 1930s style isolationism and short shortsightedness. How quaint.

    that isn't how the world works. And that isn't how elected officials act. Doing so undermines the country. We don't live in a pre information age world anymore. We need the rest of the world as much as they need us. If you want us to slide into obscurity then that is fine. I am not ok with it however. I want us to remain a power in the world stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    I don't claim to be privy to the inner workings of the senior leadership of the GOP.
    I have however been active int eh GOP for about 20 years. In that time I have served on election and administrative staff for a congressman, I have served on the County, district, and state level central committees, and am friends with a number of high ranking elected officials including one of the Indiana State Senators, enough so that I go tot be there for the birth of his Twins back when he was just running for Congress. That being said I have been far less active and taken a step back in the last few years to focus on my Real Estate career. So I don't sit on the CC anymore or work directly for the party.

    I not claiming to be a Political mastermind or overly well connected compared to some people I know. But I explain all of this to show that I do have a fairly good finger on the pulse of the party and the people involved at various levels. And I can tell you that at a local and state level Trump is seen as one of, if not the, most divisive elected figure in the 20ish years I have been involved. He is either loved or hated and it is ab out an even slip on the County and District level with State being a bit more favorable to him. Many of us tow the party line at events, etc because that is what we do. Yay trump. Vote for Mike Braun and trey Holliongsworth so they can support his agenda... Yay... Then we go complain about it while putting out signs and between canvasing houses.

    He is either loved or hated. Worshiped or reviled. there isn't an in between with him like most past presidents have been. Bush had people that were tepid on him. Heck I started out like that and ended up becoming a huge supporter. Same with many others. And if you weren't a big fan you just weren't a big fan. For Trump supporters if you don't love him then you are a traitor and hate america. Anything bad said about him is a conspiracy and made up by the Media to discredit him. There is no rationality involved when it comes to him. And that applies equally to the love and the hate.

    but here is the fact as much as I hate him I will admit when he has done a good thing. Two solid SCOTUS picks, Right to try law, probably firing sessions (although I question his reasons). He has done good things. But If you don't look at every side of what is said and done then you are doing yourself and this country a disservice.

    He is as bad as Obama, and worse in some ways. But it is what makes him bad that differs. And in many ways he is a natural overreaction to Obama and then Hillary being the Dems choice to run. IN the end he is a bad president and a worse human being. And there is a Meme that puts it best. He is a dumb persons Idea of what a smart person is.
    Do you know anything about being a billionaire? How many buildings have you constructed in New York City? How many NYC public ice rinks have you fixed? How many times have you been elected President of the United States? How many supermodels have you married?

    LOL, to call him stupid is insane, literally insane and buffoonish. He may be somewhat abrasive, he may be something less than a sophisticated mandarin of the East Coast Ivy League set, he isn’t a stupid man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    If only socialist left wing liberals hated him that would be fine. But as someone active int he GOP I can tell you that he is the most divisive person in the party in the last 20 years.
    Yes, he is indeed divisive, petty, impulsive, and he's not capable of even pretending to keep his ego in check as most presidents do. He is decidedly un-Presidential and is the prime contributor to the current divisiveness in American politics. But I'm trying to think who, in the entire Republican party, would have been able to accomplish what he has accomplished toward enacting a political agenda that meshes with mine. There isn't anyone. The way I see it...politics-as-usual in America these days is stupid and counter-productive. Trump is not politics-as-usual. I'd vote for him again in a heartbeat...warts and all. Bush, Bush, Romney...yes, they understood conventional politics. Moral, self-effacing, decent...all of those things and more....they were ineffectual at best and counterproductive at worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    I don't claim to be privy to the inner workings of the senior leadership of the GOP.
    I have however been active int eh GOP for about 20 years. In that time I have served on election and administrative staff for a congressman, I have served on the County, district, and state level central committees, and am friends with a number of high ranking elected officials including one of the Indiana State Senators, enough so that I go tot be there for the birth of his Twins back when he was just running for Congress. That being said I have been far less active and taken a step back in the last few years to focus on my Real Estate career. So I don't sit on the CC anymore or work directly for the party.

    I not claiming to be a Political mastermind or overly well connected compared to some people I know. But I explain all of this to show that I do have a fairly good finger on the pulse of the party and the people involved at various levels. And I can tell you that at a local and state level Trump is seen as one of, if not the, most divisive elected figure in the 20ish years I have been involved. He is either loved or hated and it is ab out an even slip on the County and District level with State being a bit more favorable to him. Many of us tow the party line at events, etc because that is what we do. Yay trump. Vote for Mike Braun and trey Holliongsworth so they can support his agenda... Yay... Then we go complain about it while putting out signs and between canvasing houses.

    He is either loved or hated. Worshiped or reviled. there isn't an in between with him like most past presidents have been. Bush had people that were tepid on him. Heck I started out like that and ended up becoming a huge supporter. Same with many others. And if you weren't a big fan you just weren't a big fan. For Trump supporters if you don't love him then you are a traitor and hate america. Anything bad said about him is a conspiracy and made up by the Media to discredit him. There is no rationality involved when it comes to him. And that applies equally to the love and the hate.

    but here is the fact as much as I hate him I will admit when he has done a good thing. Two solid SCOTUS picks, Right to try law, probably firing sessions (although I question his reasons). He has done good things. But If you don't look at every side of what is said and done then you are doing yourself and this country a disservice.

    He is as bad as Obama, and worse in some ways. But it is what makes him bad that differs. And in many ways he is a natural overreaction to Obama and then Hillary being the Dems choice to run. IN the end he is a bad president and a worse human being. And there is a Meme that puts it best. He is a dumb persons Idea of what a smart person is.
    Funny, I started out as a big Bush supporter but by the end of his eight years I was glad to see him go.

    That last statement is quite the GOPe, elitist comment eh? You sound just like the libtards do. How enlightened of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Business_Casual View Post
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    Do you know anything about being a billionaire? How many buildings have you constructed in New York City? How many NYC public ice rinks have you fixed? How many times have you been elected President of the United States? How many supermodels have you married?

    LOL, to call him stupid is insane, literally insane and buffoonish. He may be somewhat abrasive, he may be something less than a sophisticated mandarin of the East Coast Ivy League set, he isn’t a stupid man.
    Everything Trump knows about being a billionaire he learned from his father, who gave him $400,000,000.

    I suppose with that amount of money (and 15,000 apartments in NYC) I would look as successful as Trump does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    Yes, he is indeed divisive, petty, impulsive, and he's not capable of even pretending to keep his ego in check as most presidents do. He is decidedly un-Presidential and is the prime contributor to the current divisiveness in American politics. But I'm trying to think who, in the entire Republican party, would have been able to accomplish what he has accomplished toward enacting a political agenda that meshes with mine. There isn't anyone. The way I see it...politics-as-usual in America these days is stupid and counter-productive. Trump is not politics-as-usual. I'd vote for him again in a heartbeat...warts and all. Bush, Bush, Romney...yes, they understood conventional politics. Moral, self-effacing, decent...all of those things and more....they were ineffectual.
    Nothing that he has accomplished will outlast his Presidency. He hasn't changed a thing.

    This is like the socialists that lecture us on how you have to break an egg to make an omelet... but they never seem to have an omelet, do they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    Ahhh. 1930s style isolationism and short shortsightedness. How quaint.

    that isn't how the world works. And that isn't how elected officials act. Doing so undermines the country. We don't live in a pre information age world anymore. We need the rest of the world as much as they need us. If you want us to slide into obscurity then that is fine. I am not ok with it however. I want us to remain a power in the world stage.
    You are extremely arrogant. YOU and your ilk need to be flushed if the Republican Party is ever going to live on in the future. YOU and your ilk are why Trump was elected. Something about a swamp.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SethB View Post
    Nothing that he has accomplished will outlast his Presidency. He hasn't changed a thing.

    This is like the socialists that lecture us on how you have to break an egg to make an omelet... but they never seem to have an omelet, do they?
    You can credit (or discredit, however you choose to look at it) the GOPe for that. They were butthurt that he won and their golden boys Jeb or Christie didn't. The Republicans have controlled the White House and Congress for almost two years. Thank them for "He hasn't changed a thing".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    You are extremely arrogant. YOU and your ilk need to be flushed if the Republican Party is ever going to live on in the future. YOU and your ilk are why Trump was elected. Something about a swamp.....
    No I just have an understanding how how the world works. You call it arrogant, I call it realistic. Trump is the swamp. He is a New York Democrat. He will turn on his current supporters in a heartbeat if it benefits him. His Anti 2A feelings have already started to show through a bit as has his contempt for the people who elected him. Goodluck. You are going to need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SethB View Post
    Everything Trump knows about being a billionaire he learned from his father, who gave him $400,000,000.

    I suppose with that amount of money (and 15,000 apartments in NYC) I would look as successful as Trump does.
    But you have neither, nor will you.

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