ATF Prosecutes Ohio Man for AR Pistol with Brace

[Five_Point_Five_Six]

If you SMR something, you are now on the ATF radar and they know right where to go to confiscate it if the Democrat's would have their way sometime in the future. No thanks, I'll pass.

Have you ever filled out a 4473? They already know.

[Arik]

Oh my, that thing should have been aborted.

Still fascinated as to what led to his arrest initially, this is typically the real face palm moments in these cases.

Call for domestic distance. He threw a phone at his wife. Because it's a domestic cops confiscated all his firearms

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[Biggy]

Have you ever filled out a 4473? They already know.

Mine have all been sold to someone ? at gunshows long ago . I believe it is a little more involved and there is more of a paper trail on NFA stuff.

[Five_Point_Five_Six]

Mine have all been sold to someone ? at gunshows long ago . I believe it is a little more involved and there is more of a paper trail on NFA stuff.

If prior behavior is an indicator of how the ATF will go about confiscation, they won't be asking you for permission.

[MegademiC]

If prior behavior is an indicator of how the ATF will go about confiscation, they won't be asking you for permission.

This. If they are forcefully confiscating, you are going to have to prove you dont have them by “letting” them search your house. Ymmv, but you live once, and I want some fun toys so I quit worrying about “lists” a while ago.

Ever buy gun related stuff with a CC? They know you have one.

[themonk]

Mine have all been sold to someone ? at gunshows long ago . I believe it is a little more involved and there is more of a paper trail on NFA stuff.

Actually it's the opposite. Any gun store that has been audited by the ATF in the last 6 or 7 years has had their blue book scanned. With an NFA item the paperwork is tied to the device and not the user unlike a 4473 where the device is tied to the user. NFA documentation is all paper based with even the newer Eforms get converted to paper. From a technical perspective it would be far easier to create a database with all the scanned data of the audits (why the Obama admin did it in the first place) than to create one with the NFA data.

PS - The AFT has stated to the NRA that they are not creating a database with the scanned data as they are prohibited from doing so by appropriations act restriction which prohibits the consolidation or centralization of FFL records.

[pinzgauer]

Talk to falconers living in California about how the feds will come check for violations.

Hard takedown swat type entry, one step removed from a no-knock.

Guy answered his door early morning and was met by a large number of Fed & State officers in swat type gear and tactics, guns drawn.

All because he had been falsely reported as violating Federal migratory bird laws by do-gooders who are anti falconry. Not a gun guy, no threats, nothing to indicate he would be a risk.

So imagine what they will do if they think you may be armed!

[Averageman]

The other "lesson" to be learned here might actually be if you can't control your temper and decide to throw things at your spouse, you're likely to win a "stupid prize" for that.
As wrong and sometimes confusing these things may be or even get had he acted like a Man he would have avoided all of this.

[kerplode]

Pistols and cane tips aside, this guy ****ed up when he lost his temper. He invited LE into his life and he got bent over for it. I'm actually surprised they didn't stack 20 different charges on his ass hoping that something would stick or that he'd plea out.

It's also interesting how many of y'all seem to think that when the cops show up to confiscate your stuff you can just tell them that you sold everything at a gunshow and they'll say "Aw shucks...OK, then...Whelp, sorry to bother you good citizen. Have a nice day." and go away. Naw, it won't be like that. They'll come at 3AM, kick in door, steamroll your ass, rip your ENTIRE house to shreds looking for your stash, then go out for brunch. If you're lucky, you won't make any "furtive movements"...

And yeah, you're already in their databases, so if you want a SBR or a janky pistol or whatever, get the damn thing and enjoy your life.

[Renegade]

Have you ever filled out a 4473? They already know.

Everyone who has bought a gun from me and done 4473 is NOT on the Radar as a result of that 4473.