And This is How Civil Wars Begin....

[Doc Safari]

I see your points, but consider this:

The Soros-led loony left is deliberately instigating these attacks to elicit a response from the conservative side so they can crack down by declaring martial law or some other draconian policy--and they then take over by fiat. While Trump is president, he won't do it and the left doesn't have the power. But wait until the next Democrat president can look back on four or eight years of violence and say, "Something's got to be done, and I'm going to do it. Everybody turn in your weapons, blah blah blah...."

The attacks you are seeing now are an attempt by the left to intimidate and provoke the conservative gun-owning, Christian, right-wing, milk-drinking WHATEVER into going full bubba so there can be a clampdown.

[Circle_10]

The attacks you are seeing now are an attempt by the left to intimidate and provoke the conservative gun-owning, Christian, right-wing, milk-drinking WHATEVER into going full bubba so there can be a clampdown.

I'm not saying I particularly agree or disagree with that assessment, but assuming it were true, what than would the best course of action be for those citizens who form the broad group collectively referred to as "The Right"? At the moment it looks like a lose/lose situation. Or is that the point, that the party is over no matter what way you slice it?
Or is the point that if doing something and doing nothing both lead to disaster, you might as well do *something* in hopes of coming out better on the other side?

[Averageman]

Someone, see outlayer is going to take this a step further, it almost cannot be stopped at this point.
Steyer is correct about the history of these things being bloody, bit if history teaches us anything it is that violent events are much easier to ramp up as they seem to gather momentum, rather than ease back
I'm cautiously optimistic that we will make it through the midterms without incident, however violence that would require a major federal law enforcement action would certainly make the right look like oppressors.
So ramping up to the event of the election is aost an inevitably.

[Doc Safari]

I'm not saying I particularly agree or disagree with that assessment, but assuming it were true, what than would the best course of action be for those citizens who form the broad group collectively referred to as "The Right"? At the moment it looks like a lose/lose situation. Or is that the point, that the party is over no matter what way you slice it?
Or is the point that if doing something and doing nothing both lead to disaster, you might as well do *something* in hopes of coming out better on the other side?

Let the lefty loons keep escalating until they go too far (we are nearly there). That will turn public opinion against them BIG TIME. I remember before the Oklahoma City bombing the militia movement was gaining in popularity. To this day I wonder if Tim McVeigh had been recruited and trained by an alphabet soup agency as an agent provocateur and instead he ended up being the patsy.

[Circle_10]

Let the lefty loons keep escalating until they go too far (we are nearly there). That will turn public opinion against them BIG TIME.

I think the Left is too good at playing the PR game to actually overstep to this degree.
This is my alternative theory:
The Left go too far all right, but they will totally get away with it by doing it in a manner sufficiently incremental and sufficiently proportional to changing voter demographics that will, over years, decades, whatever, produce increasingly "progressive" attitudes among the US population. When viewed by these more progressive-minded/statist future voters, the actions of the Totalitarian Left will be judged as reasonable ("They're only killing Nazis, so it's okay" and a "Nazi" will be anyone they say is one.).

Basically I think because more Americans are statist-minded losers than ever before, and that trend is likely to become *more* prevalent with time, a Left wing crackdown on "enemies of the State" is going to be considered more and more palatable (or even appealing) to a greater number of US citizens as time goes on. Public opinion will come to favor the heroes of the state security apparatuses, heroically rooting out the deplorables whose very existence threatens the new Utopia.

[SomeOtherGuy]

I'm not saying I particularly agree or disagree with that assessment, but assuming it were true, what than would the best course of action be for those citizens who form the broad group collectively referred to as "The Right"? At the moment it looks like a lose/lose situation. Or is that the point, that the party is over no matter what way you slice it?
Or is the point that if doing something and doing nothing both lead to disaster, you might as well do *something* in hopes of coming out better on the other side?

Read or watch "Ender's Game" and you'll figure it out.

Another key issue is control of the media, because so many people are so easily swayed by idiots on the idiot box. At the moment the right (standard and alt- alike) are losing the media control battle, but they are at least aware of that it's going on so there's some hope.

[scooter22]

I was unconvinced until I read this shit...

August 19, 2018: Dad Dares Daughter To Knock Off Guy’s MAGA Hat For 100 Bucks. She Does It.

That combined with the destruction of Trumps star on the Walk of Fame have me loading magazines.

Seriously 90% of that shit is nonsense and both sides go back and forth with the same nonsense.

Of all things that has you concerned???


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[SteyrAUG]

I see your points, but consider this:

The Soros-led loony left is deliberately instigating these attacks to elicit a response from the conservative side so they can crack down by declaring martial law or some other draconian policy--and they then take over by fiat. While Trump is president, he won't do it and the left doesn't have the power. But wait until the next Democrat president can look back on four or eight years of violence and say, "Something's got to be done, and I'm going to do it. Everybody turn in your weapons, blah blah blah...."

The attacks you are seeing now are an attempt by the left to intimidate and provoke the conservative gun-owning, Christian, right-wing, milk-drinking WHATEVER into going full bubba so there can be a clampdown.

And what would Soros gain from that outcome? Nothing. In fact he'd lose everything. Once the gloves come all the way off and there is nothing else to lose, those who lost the most would storm the Bastilles of individuals like Soros.

[SteyrAUG]

Of all things that has you concerned???


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Check your saracasm meter. Much of the list is things of no consequence.

[Doc Safari]

And what would Soros gain from that outcome? Nothing. In fact he'd lose everything. Once the gloves come all the way off and there is nothing else to lose, those who lost the most would storm the Bastilles of individuals like Soros.

I just threw his name in there as a euphemism for "The Powers That Be". The left has a lot to gain from taking over. Think "Dirty War" in Argentina.