The One Gun Solution (GP Carbine) - Reality?

[mig1nc]

3.5x is just not enough mag for a GP gun for PID. The TA11 was cool back in 2001, for what if offers you can get much more capability for the size and weight of that optic.

The Sig Bravo 5 at 5x is getting great reviews, but I have decided to not buy China as long as there's a viable alternative.

I keep thinking about the Leupold D-EVO. You neither move your head or your rifle. Seems like the best of both worlds in this context.


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[rockapede]

I keep thinking about the Leupold D-EVO. You neither move your head or your rifle. Seems like the best of both worlds in this context.

Buddy at work has one. FOV and eye box are extremely tight. The concept was intriguing to me, but in practice, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze, considering how much you give up optically over a good LPVO.

[mig1nc]

Buddy at work has one. FOV and eye box are extremely tight. The concept was intriguing to me, but in practice, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze Considering how much you give up optically over a good LPVO.

Well that's disappointing. Is it worse than the Sig or Aimpoints 6x magnifier?


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[ASH556]

3.5x is just not enough mag for a GP gun for PID. The TA11 was cool back in 2001, for what if offers you can get much more capability for the size and weight of that optic.

Right...

RIP M4C, RIP Will.

FO to the guy above.

[officerX]

This is not the best video, but he does a good job of explaining what I was talking about.

It's not a new idea, in fact it's always been there and as he says, Leupold was talking about it way back when too.

https://youtu.be/zQ6MubBBK-o


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If you're going to do this, cant the gun to the left, why not just have the red dot offset on the right side so that it then lines up with your right, dominant, eye (for right eye dominant shooters)? Seems that would be the better option than having your left eye take over. I'd have to try it, but I can't imagine it'd be easier to have my left eye looking at the red dot when I'm right eye dominant.

[rockapede]

Well that's disappointing. Is it worse than the Sig or Aimpoints 6x magnifier?


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I have no experience with 6x magnifiers. I do have a Razor 1-6 and an Aimpoint 3X-C magnifier. It was worse to my eyes than either of those (and night/day worse than the Razor).

[ASH556]

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[mig1nc]

I have no experience with 6x magnifiers. I do have a Razor 1-6 and an Aimpoint 3X-C magnifier. It was worse to my eyes than either of those (and night/day worse than the Razor).

Thanks man, appreciate the feedback. And possibly saving me some bucks.


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[MountainRaven]

3.5x is just not enough mag for a GP gun for PID. The TA11 was cool back in 2001, for what if offers you can get much more capability for the size and weight of that optic.

That seems to be an awfully absolute statement about something that sounds an awfully lot like opinion. Do you care to refine it?

[vicious_cb]

That seems to be an awfully absolute statement about something that sounds an awfully lot like opinion. Do you care to refine it?

The entire point of the TA11 was to have a ACOG with good eye relief. Thats why they had to lengthen the tube with the technology increasing the size and weight. This was done in order to make an ACOG suitable for up close 3 gun stages using BAC. Theres no need to do that if you are running an off set red dot or even a LPVO with the current technology. Think about it, the TA11 is a 3.5x mag 14oz optic without the mount. If anything they can re-engineer the TA11 to something like a mini-ACOG with the current optical technology and make it decently viable again.