More guns choking and KaBooming on reman/cheap ammo???

I pointed that out in another thread discussing Freedom Munitions the the only difference is new vs used brass. My thoughts on that is-if they have issues with one then I bet they’ll have issues on the other side too.

Bullshit.

Ditto, on both accounts. Add to that, I also don’t have the space.

Factory Remans/gun show reloads make absolutely no sense to me. Reman stuff saves almost nothing over factory new and adds totally unnecessary risk.

That said, I load most of my own ammo, couldn’t afford to shoot uspsa/3gun/etc without doing so.

Not to crap on Freedom exclusively, as this can happen with any remans, but these guys will mix any headstamps in batches which my reloading experience says is a bad idea. I use only ATK brass (speer, FC, blazer) or winchester brass in separate lots when I load. I witnessed a guy on our range have 2 case head separations out of one box of Freedom reman stuff. Our gunsmith kindly dug the first case out of the chamber for him. This is the result of allowing poor quality brass to be reloaded.

I’ve had a press for a year and a half and barely touched it. I just buy whatever is cheap for range ammo.

I avoid commercial reloads completely. If somehow factory ammo became unobtainable, I’d start reloading before I purchased reloads.

I’m always amazed at the guys at gun shows who will walk up to a table, pick up some random ziplock baggy of bubba’s reloads, and take it home.

Quality remanufactured ammunition is fine.
Quality reloaded ammunition at home is fine.

Expect the definition of quality to vary widely. Many who reload, commercially or at home, shouldn’t.

I shoot alot of reman freedom 223 and have ever had an issue.I dont mix brands and all my ammo stays in the box with the lot number until after I shoot it.Its at the point now that prices are all starting to bottom out between brands so ill probably pick up a couple new cases of ppu or wolf gold this week.My buddy was shooting tula brassmax through a gun and it blew the top of the barrel right off.He contacted them and he had a check in his hands fairly quickly for the full replacement amount for the gun.Id venture to guess most large companies who load ammo would do the right thing if their ammo caused a problem.No way id ever consider shooting gun show reloads lol

Ive had exactly two issues with surplus ammo, both Malaysian M193(?) 5.56 ammo early 1990’s time frame.One primer blew out while being shot from an AR and another round literally fell apart while being loaded into a GI mag. As far as factory reloads, Zero was the most filthest ammo Ive ever used in any gun, a S&W M 15 in .38 Special. Absolute mess but all rounds worked and chrono as advertised. Another local commercial reloader, either MDC or MPC cant recall there name for some reason, there rounds were all over the place in terms of velocity, accuracy and reliability out of a similar revolver. My buddy & I stopped shooting it after 15 rnds each or so. Gave it to a guy who reloaded and he was thrilled at getting them even after being told of the issues we had. I dont have the time or interest to reload. I buy it cheap and stack it deep! For me its easier to do it that way. A neighbor who reloads his rifle & pistol ammo really goes to great lengths to ensure consistency and safety. He will start at 12pm and reload straight until 4 or 5 pm. Never picks up his cell, no BSing with friends etc. Secludes himself completely. While Ive never seen his reloads cause an issue, iI don’t know what great advantage he has in terms accuracy, reliability etc. He did admit that it will be about a year or so to recoup his investment in all the equipment but can never make back the time spent on it.

I’ve been reloading for over 30yrs…In all that time the only issue I had with my ammo was a couple of squibs.in some pistol ammo. Luckily, I had some squib rods and was able to clear them easily. The above comment about there being some people reloading who shouldn’t be is quite true. If your the type of person who is easily bored,distracted, has trouble paying attention to details, or dosent have alot of mechanical ability, then you probably shouldn’t be reloading. I’ve got a few hard rules that I abide by when I sit down in front of my bench to load.

  1. NEVER have more than one kind of powder on the bench at a time. This avoids confusion, and can possibly save you from a kb.
  2. Before you start,ALWAYS,ALWAYS,ALWAYS Zero the scale.
  3. NEVER load when you’re tired,distracted,angry, on medication etc, If you can’t pay attention to what you’re doing,you’ve no business sitting down in front of the press.
  4. For those of you who own a progressive press (as I do) remember, reloading isn’t a race. Just because your press can reload 400rnds an hour,dosent mean you have to.
    I abided by these rules from day one. It’s worked for me

Great advice. Thanks.

BTW and OT… hat tip to your Robert Service quote in sig line. I’m a big RS fan.

Take Care,

Buzz

Freedom Munitions newly loaded ammo shoots great.

I have run cases through my Glocks, 1911s, SIGs and the Hi-Power with no troubles.

I have looked at their reman stuff but the cases look dirty and it just seems too iffy.

Freedom’s new made stuff is cheaper than most any new ammo at any gun store around here. Especially since I live near their store and do not pay shipping.

Y buddy buys reloads from LAX and always has hard primer issues in his Glock. 2 per magazine lately. I’ve put about 14k of Russian steel case through my AR and never had an issue. I have about 5k through my Glock and only started having light primer strikes with the most recent lot, about 2 per box. Accuracy isn’t the best but for 1/2 to 2/3 the price, no complaints here. Never had an issue with the AK.