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    Marty Daniels, Owner of Daniel Defense, goes full gun control.

    I was really shocked to see this last night. When I first started reading about it I figured it was people twisting his words. But it is there clear as day on the DD Facebook page..

    Of all the companies to go full retard I really didn't think DD would be one of them...

    https://www.facebook.com/DanielDefen...10727965641724

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    I wouldn't say that's "full gun control", but given the current climate it's certainly a God-awful business decision.

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    I'm with Marty. The NICS is a disgrace. The bill would allow controls to ensure states and enforcement agencies are submitting the data they should have, but failed to for decades.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...bill/2135/text

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dist. Expert 26 View Post
    I wouldn't say that's "full gun control", but given the current climate it's certainly a God-awful business decision.
    I agree with this. I was talking with a few last night who kind of were that is isn't a bad thing, per say, since it basically requires things to be enforced that are already there. I haven't had time to read deep into it, so there could be negatives in there, I just haven't had time for a full break down of it. But considering your average Fudd, it is something that might very well lose them business since they will brand him a traitor and start throwing DD gear out. Though they will demand 120% retail since it was pre-bad0-DD.
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    I agree with Marty...

    They need to update the system and keep guns out of the hands of criminals... I do not see how this is a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Damage View Post
    I agree with Marty...

    They need to update the system and keep guns out of the hands of criminals... I do not see how this is a bad thing.
    It's not. What's bad is the optics of a prominent gun manufacturer supporting a "gun control" bill. It's going to cost him business and give the left more ammunition. "See, even assault weapon manufacturers think we need gun control".

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    If this was just about cleaning up the NICS system I might agree. But this is going to be far to open ended. The way it is written you could see people losing their rights for unpaid child support, PTSD diagnosis, etc. And I am not ok with that.
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    People already are temporarily restricted for these things. The problem is in the reporting regulatory agency, as seen with the SSA. NICS is supposed to aggregate specific classes of people, and will be as good (or as poor) a database as the data inputted. However, at this point, agencies, local, state, and federal, are simply not fulfilling their reporting obligation. If there is a problem with the data reported by another agency, that's another issue to address, and any potential due process rights can be addressed in court. If NICS eventually proves to be ineffective because of bureaucratic nonfeasance, we, as a community, will have a bigger problem.

    I am concerned with errors or abuses from the reporting agency. Those issues exist now and will in the future. Stopping NICS from working, however, is just as bad a solution.
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    I'm also not seeing a problem with FIX NICS. I don't think it will fix much, but it seems focused on prohibited persons and that is better than being fixed on guns or a specific class of guns. I'd also like to see illegals added to that reporting.
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    Imho, DD is running full damage control. Rather than dig in, DD is doing this to prolong what many deem inevitable now, which is a forthcoming AWB version 2.0. Could be six months, could be two through ten years, but it's on the way. So, do we take steps too prolong it, or dig in and fight back legally to STOP IT from happening?

    I have chosen the latter. I have recently joined the GOA, and as an existing life member of the NRA, I have made additional donations to the NRA-ILA.

    Meanwhile, these issues DD is supporting could possibly erode the 4th, 5th, and 14th amendments regarding due process. When does it end??? Edited... How about "compromise"... We relax a bit on "fix NICS" and get national reciprocity??? Remember, gun control is not about compromise... We give more, and get nothing in return but to keep some of the stuff we already legally own...
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