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    Gear loadout pics and descriptions

    This thread is for members to post pics, info, descriptions etc on their gear loadouts. This is primarily meant for 1st line/2nd line gear, not individual pouches or items. We can start other stickied threads when necessary.

    Please ensure that you post the following info to accompany your photos:

    1. Title your post 'Range loadout', 'Contractor loadout', 'LE loadout', 'Military combat loadout', '3-gun match loadout', 'Home defense loadout' etc, or whatever best describes how the gear is used.

    2. List the items in the photos.

    3. Include a brief description of why you made the equipment choices you did and any other info you'd like to include.
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    Paraclete Hard Plate Carrier (non-cummerbund)

    Eagle dual M4 pouch (containing Esstac 12ga shotgun cards)

    Eagle 40mm pouch (contains pocket smoke)

    HSGI Bleeder pouch (assorted medical gear, shears behind pouch)






    I originally used an Eagle PC w/ cummerbund, but didnt like how it felt when I shouldered a long gun. I also found the CB to be a bit slower to don than a non-CB version. My original PC (shown above) consisted of:

    Eagle - CB Plate carrier

    3 Tactical Tailor single M4 pouches

    Tactical Tailor 16 rnd shot panel

    Eagle 40mm pouch (pocket smoke)

    HSGI Bleeder

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    General Purpose Loadout

    Here is mine. It took a lot of trial and error. I almost took a more telling picture of the pile of gear I've bought but put aside as not workable for me, but I thought I'd keep it simple and focus on what I did choose. I'm using this for everything: 3Gun, Class, SHTF whatever. Like anything else it's a series of compromises with functionality/comfort/mobility being the key qualities.

    I ended up with the two-piece MAV with X-Harness as the most comfortable and stable rig I've tried. Traditional chest rigs like the SKD/Eagle were invariably unbalanced towards the front which could get a little rough on the back. I wanted something that could balance the load around the body. Weight is very evenly distributed and so even if it seems like a lot, it is more comfortable than the smaller chest rigs I've tried.



    I chose to be able to carry 4 mags and staged them on my right side using a TT 3-mag shingle for tac loads and an Eagle FB pouch as a dedicated emergency reload pouch. I preferred the FB to the FAST Mag. I chose a single-shingle setup rather than a 2-3 mag flap pouch as its more comfortable and distributes the weight better around the body. I've tried two shingles but together they added too much bulk and one side was always unbalanced.

    Between the FB pouch and the shingle I placed a Blackwater flashlight pouch to give a bit more room to grab the FB. Having the FB right next to the shingle significantly slowed the reload and made it hard to grab with a proper beer can grip.

    The HSGI pistol Mag pouches are staged horizontally but I'm not sure I've got the best setup or pistol mag pouches for that matter. I do like the horizontal setup as it doesn't torque the platform into your ribs like a vertical setup would do. I will be switching to FB pistol mag pouches.

    On the TT hydration pouch is a Spec-Ops large first aid pouch (contents - Israeli battle dressing, a tourniquet and two injectors of Celox). I also have a small EGL Loopy dump /utility pouch. I've decided that the dump pouch is exclusively for tac reloads as a place to store "light" magazines and loose rounds. Empty mags get dropped on the deck to be collected later (IF possible as I've noticed a training scar of using the dump pouch during an emergency reload and I'm in the process of breaking that habit - Thanks to RetreatHell for teaching me that lesson the easy way).

    On the left side I'm using a TT large utility pouch as a kind of "possibles bag": speed loaders; lube; tools; cleaning kit etc. Next to that is a Blackwater "Universal" holster which isn't the fastest holster around but has filled a niche for me over the last couple of years being able to accept both my Glocks and 1911, light mounted or otherwise but I'm realizing it's days are numbered as well. Attached to the front of the holster is a B/W multi-tool pouch (Victorinox).

    I'm a big believer in knives and have had one on my person pretty much everyday since my dad gave me my first at 12 years old. I was taught that you always have a knife and fire on your person. In that time I've also learned that while a bigger blade can often do things a small blade can, a small blade can't do the things a larger blade can but some blades get ridiculously big. Cosmok and I collaborated on the "Gutshot" knife you see in the black sheath (link http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=29216 ). Surprisingly it's very comfortable to wear in a seated position like in a car. I can even bend forward while sitting. On the front of the knife is a second tourniquet in Blueforce holder.

    All told it's a very comfortable setup that I wouldn't have been able to put together without a lot of time spent on the range, troubleshooting problems, developing my own techniques that take into account options and solutions.
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    Non-Mil/non-LEO practice, training, and yomp about in the desert

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    training/home defense rig


    ATS chest rig
    IFAK from a local surplus store with TKN guts
    BFG 10 speed with a pressure bandage, bottle of EWL and SF E2e, emergency reload mag
    Men acquire a particular quality by constantly acting a particular way. We become just by performing just actions, temperate by performing temperate actions, brave by performing brave actions-Aristotle

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    A sword tested, the troth of a maid,
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    CQB/Home Protection Loadout

    IsrAgor Vest. Israeli Manufacture. This was the best vest I could afford that offered the most options, GoldFlex IIIA Panels, MOLLE compatible , 10"X12" Plate pockets, etc. The pouches are the ones that came with it. Pretty low quality and will be replaced with pouches from Eagle Industries, Specter Gear, Maxpedition, Diamondback Tactical and High Speed Gear Inc. I will be getting 1/2" Ceramic Level IV ICW plates from Bulletproofme.com when funds allow. Was thinking about Dyneema plates until I realized how much AP surplus ammo is out there. The cost of Dyneema plates are also a little out there for me.

    I keep 5 rifle mags and 2 pistol mags on the vest. A 1/4" shank tool kit is also in one of the pouches along with a Cold Steel Recon Tanto, Cobra FRS Radios for communicating with my wife as I live in a rural area and leaving my house and engaging outdoors if SHTF might be the best option. I keep a 4oz. can of MkIV pepper foam and a 21" ASP Baton with clip-on mirror for less-lethal applications. A Taser C2 will soon be added as well. I have been tased and it certainly causes minor PTSD, not a fun ride at all. 1 pair each of S&W hinged and chained handcuffs. 2 each M18 smoke grenades never know and they are cool. The contents of the vest may change a little after I decide which pouches to buy. That right there can drive a guy nuts. The vest is a front overlapping opening for quick deployment. Carbine is a Bushmaster Superlight A2 with Surefire G2, CAA mount, XS 24/7 Striped front sight, XS non-tritium same plane rear, ZM weapons single point sling. The carbine is loaded with Hornady 55Gr. TAP.

    The belt is a Galco Instructors belt. I like this kind of belt because it can be quickly adjusted for thicker/thinner clothing. Eagle Industries SAS Mk V holster with one strap removed and same makers SAS PMIII mag pouches. Surefire 6Z Combatlight with Surefire holster and lanyard. Front mag pouch on the holster carries a Kershaw folding knife and pocket-clip handcuff key. Pistol lanyard is from Blackhawk. The Velcro is already wearing out and it has the big stupid logo in it. The pistol is a Beretta 92FS Brigadier with Lasermax guide rod laser and Trijicon Night Sights.and is loaded with Federal 115Gr. +P+ 9BPLE. There are 3 pistol mags on the belt in case it is all I can get on in time and offers me a decent amount of ammo. I also have the same holster(which can be quickly changed from the belt) for my Kimber Classic Custom 1911 .45ACP if I feel it will be a better choice. This statement will certainly cause some harsh feelings towards the Beretta. I am however a big fan of the Model 92FS and the Kimber 1911 pistols so I feel having both that are easy to swap on the belt gives me the best versatility. Mag pouches work for both pistols. I keep the belt relatively empty of anything but pistol and mags as it sits under my body armor and getting to anything mounted on the belt is a pain.


    Update: I have got new higher quality pouches finally and added a Surefire X300 to my Beretta 92 Brigadier.
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    Here's my loadout for the range.



    BFG Molle Belt with BFG Inner Belt
    Safariland 6004 for Beretta M9 (with multitool)
    Eagle FB pouches (Two M4 pouches, One dbl. M9 Mag pouch)
    BFG Trauma Kit Now
    BFG "BooBoo" Pouch
    Pact III Timer

    I chose the Molle belt since I wanted an option that was smaller and more streamlined than my previous chest rig. Faster Mag changes, better weight carriage were big factors. As for the Blue Force Gear design, I really like it's adjustability. The inner belt replaced an Eagle Duty belt, which had problems due to its overlapping velcro section. But the BFG belt is lighter and simpler, just click and go.

    As for the holster, the 6004 is an obvious choice, IMHO, its the best thigh mounted holster out there. I've used this one for years, and have modified the shroud to ride higher, cutting out one leg strap and shaping the empty slot to conform to the thigh. I also keep an el-cheapo multitool on it for adjusting sights and other tasks requiring small tools.

    The Eagle FB pouches are excellent. I'm a big fan of Eagle's gear, they make nice kit, and their pouches are no exception. They retain the mags so well, I went ahead and trimmed the tops and retainer tabs off the pouches, since they had a rare ability to get stuffed into the pouch along with a retained mag during tac reloads.

    The Trauma Kit Now and the BooBoo pouch are two sides of the same coin. The range I go to is fairly out of the way, and has a large quantity of steel targets.(read: accidents waiting to happen) I figured it was definitely better to be safe than sorry, so I got a Trauma Kit Now, which I have setup at the middle of my belt for equal access by each arm. (This is in case the ND/AD/Splashback happens to hit an arm) The BooBoo pouch is for more minor, but much more common things, like severe hammer bite, slide bite, or just for storing misc. items like a lighter or extra hearing protection.

    The Timer is probably my favorite piece of kit, since hard numbers are hard to argue with, and it gives you a solid indicator of your skills and progress. Thinking "that was pretty fast" and knowing "my splits were .18 seconds" are two entirely different realms of professionalism.
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    That is one sexy lookin rifle brother!
    How does the belt ride without suspenders?
    What size belt did you go with, and what size pants do you wear?
    Does the TKN flop at all mounted there?
    I'm looking into a similar setup
    Thanks
    Men acquire a particular quality by constantly acting a particular way. We become just by performing just actions, temperate by performing temperate actions, brave by performing brave actions-Aristotle

    The wise man sees in the misfortune of others what he should avoid-Marcus Aurelius

    For these things give thanks at nightfall:
    The day gone, a guttered torch,
    A sword tested, the troth of a maid,
    Ice crossed, ale drunk- Havamal

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruntinhusaybah View Post
    That is one sexy lookin rifle brother!
    How does the belt ride without suspenders?
    What size belt did you go with, and what size pants do you wear?
    Does the TKN flop at all mounted there?
    I'm looking into a similar setup
    Thanks
    The belt rides very nicely, even without suspenders (I did buy a set from BFG, but they've gone mostly unused, as the belt rides very well) The padding keeps it snug without being tight.

    I just bought the SOC-C belt and BFG SOC-C Inner belt, they don't have a size to them, and to answer your question, I've used this belt with all my pant sizes this year from 44" to my current 34". That's another thread, but it highlights how adjustable this kit is.

    The TKN flops a bit, but its not annoying, the back is pretty heavily padded, so its not really noticeable. The only complaints I have with my placement are getting in vehicles (which isn't that common for my range rig) and supine shooting (which I don't shoot much in, and it doesn't prevent me from doing, so its ok as you don't assume that position unless you literally land in it anyways) I think its worth the tradeoff for equal access from each arm, so I accept the drawbacks. Others may feel differently.
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    Thanks for the answers, I'm pretty sold on this setup now
    Can you give me the specs on your rifle? Specifically bbl and rail length

    Congratulations btw
    Men acquire a particular quality by constantly acting a particular way. We become just by performing just actions, temperate by performing temperate actions, brave by performing brave actions-Aristotle

    The wise man sees in the misfortune of others what he should avoid-Marcus Aurelius

    For these things give thanks at nightfall:
    The day gone, a guttered torch,
    A sword tested, the troth of a maid,
    Ice crossed, ale drunk- Havamal

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruntinhusaybah View Post
    Thanks for the answers, I'm pretty sold on this setup now
    Can you give me the specs on your rifle? Specifically bbl and rail length

    Congratulations btw
    It's a 14.5" M4 Profile bbl with a LaRue 13.2" Rail.
    On it, I've got the following:
    Troy Front and Rear Flip Up Sights
    Aimpoint M4s in LaRue mount
    Magpul XTM Panels
    Surefire 6p LED in LaRue offset mount
    LaRue FUG vfg
    BFG Redi-Mod
    Magpul Battery Assist Device
    Magpul MIAD grip
    Magpul UBR Stock with Enhanced Buttpad

    All given a coat of Rustoleum Camo spray paint.




    Since this is a gear thread, here's the pics of my previous Chest Rig and Eagle Duty belt setup, which was replaced by my current belt mounted rig.



    Here is my chest rig, which is a Diamondback Tactical RACK system. It's very compact, but the mags are a bit tight, hence the Eagle FB pouch for a speed reload. Some might wonder why the pistol mags are on the right, and that's for a good reason, as I'm only going to reload my pistol when my primary is down, and it lays towards the center of my chest, I keep the mags on right for easier access. And of course, an Emdom mini-medic pouch is for GP storage. This rig worked quite well for a long time, until I finally got some sense and decided 6 mags was a bit much for the range and I needed to keep my reloads and secondary on the same line.



    This is the belt rig to accompany the chest rig above, and it also worked well. I used an eagle SAS dump pouch mounted on my thigh for retaining mags, and my trusty 6004 is seen in its pre-Krylon glory. I'd still be using the SAS pouch mounted on my belt if it weren't for the fact I'm only managing 4 mags now instead of 9. A good belt to be sure, just that my requirements and attitudes towards what I wanted out of my gear happened to change.
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    Ill be your huckelberry. My current AS/Warrant rig V2. Eagle Ind. PC , ATS triple/triple, BFG Ten-Speed and TQ Now, Surefire Helmet light , CAT. BOK is seperate CSM gear waistpack





    It works out well for my needs. It carries the basics that I need for an active shooter, bullets, bangs and bandaids.I dont usually have a need for a a full vest like my RAV so this fills the niche. Although I am really digging the Mayflower vest to maybe replace this in the future. Originally there was a PC TX3 where the ATS rides now but I let another officer use that for his vest.

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    Training rig

    I use the chest rig to back-feed my belt pouch or my Redimod attached to the gun, or both. I prefer to use my regular carry rig for my pistol and add one carbine magazine to the belt. I do not see a chest rig as a fighting loadout for me as a non-LE civilian. Read more about my take on this here.

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    hey john,
    i like the way you did your pistol mag pouch, where did you get the panel you have them mounted to?

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    I like this thread. Get a chance to see what/why folks are running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VMI-MO View Post
    Rob,
    Are you using the rescue hook for a tool to deal with malfunctions?

    PJ
    No. I have never used it for anything, but the intent is to use it to cut away gear, clothes, etc. if I needed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VMI-MO View Post
    Dan from VTAC demonstrated a technique of using it as a lever to create space and to pull a bolt to the rear on certian types of malfunctions.

    PJ
    I've done this with the flathead on a Leatherman tool and a stout fixed blade knife like a Strider. In fact it's what initially let me to attaching a Strider to my old rig at one time.

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    Range Loadout











    Rig:

    ATS War Belt

    ATS War Belt Insert Belt


    Component Description (counter-clockwise):

    Blade-Tech Single Magazine Pouch with Tek-Lok

    Eagle M4 Single + 9mm Double Open Top Pouch Molle (FB)

    Eagle M4 Double Mag Pouch Molle

    Maxpedition Dump Pouch - Rollypoly

    Tactical Tailor Medic Pouch

    Blade-Tech Tactical Light Holster w/DOH SR Loop

    Maxpedition Double Sheath


    Rationale:

    I assembled this belt rig to support carbine training at shooting schools and during range practice. It has a secondary role in a high-risk situation if I ever need to arm myself with a carbine. The Blade-Tech mag pouch and holster allow for very smooth, rapid pistol transitions and emergency reloads.

    The M4 open top pouch serves as my emergency carbine reload. Additional pistol magazine carriage is available, situation dependent. The dump pouch is sized right (smaller is better for me in this case) and attaches directly to the belt. The medical pouch is large and holds more than the bare bones. The double sheath carries a flashlight and multi-tool, or additional pistol magazines or weapon lubricant.

    I may add a fixed blade with a kydex sheath behind the holster, and I may swap the + 9mm Double Open Top Pouch to an M4 Single Mag Pouch Molle (FB) to reduce bulk. The belt is primarily to support my carbine, so pistol mag carriage is a secondary role.

    Hat-tip to panzerr for pioneering the "dropped and offset" holster concept: http://m4carbine.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=174

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    LE Loadout

    Tactical Tailor HEV
    Eagle Triple M4 Mag Pouch
    Emdom BOMB
    Maxpedition Haffafug Admin Panel
    Tactical Tailor Single Pistol Mag Pouches (mag in one, Surefire in another)
    Blue Force Gear Modular Vest Strap

    Tactical Tailor Duty Belt
    Safariland 6004 on Tactical Shroud (single strap)
    Sig 229 with TLR-1





    Remington 870
    H&K MP5N
    RRA 14.5


    The HEV has been great, been running it since May or June of this year. It's a great option if you're not issued BALCS cut armor. We're issued First Choice soft armor and it fits the in the HEV perfectly. Additionally, the ability to add plates is huge. I needed something that I could wear for a long period of time comfortably, yet have the ability to carry all that I would need. This was as close to a CIRAS like setup that we could get and have it work for us.

    I just picked up the Haffafug, I was looking for a small admin panel that wouldn't take up much room. This carries what I need (knife, multitool, a few pens and a pad) and allows me to mount pouches on it so I'm not overloading the vest or taking up too much space.

    The Emdom BOMB is a great piece of kit. I tried a few other medical pouches and decided this one was the best for me. It has PALS on the outside so it's stackable and the inside was perfect for what I carry in it (Kerlix, gauze, shears, quickclot, some 3x4's and gloves).

    The Eagle triple M4 mag pouch is great, it provides good retention (for hands on or tackling if necessary..) and I generally carry 3 mags on entries or for arrest operations.

    There's a TT MP5 pouch in the last pic which I switch off to if I'm carrying the MP5 for something, it holds two mags and is really well built. Can add two of those to the vest after removing the Eagle.

    I switched over my Safariland to the tactical shroud instead of trying to mod my original Safariland shroud....figured there was less chance I could screw it up this way , and I wouldn't go back. I like that the holster sits higher and still allows for vest clearance and transitions.

    Pretty simple, but works well for my needs.

    JC

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    JC, how did you find the sizing on the HEV? I hear it runs VERY large...

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