View Poll Results: recce/SPR bipod choice

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  • Tango Down Advanced Combat Bipod

    15 9.80%
  • Harris Bipod Mount Combo (LaRue or ADM)

    92 60.13%
  • VLTOR BI-Pod

    5 3.27%
  • BOBRO Gen 3 BIPOD w/BLAC

    23 15.03%
  • Other

    18 11.76%
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockeyed View Post
    i have no bipod exp. however i was just disscussing bipods with a co-worker who is into precision rifles just showed me this.

    http://www.commandarms.com/product.asp?pID=323&cID=20
    CAA, on the whole, does not tend to have the best reputation and seeing their name on something does not generally inspire confidence in that product. FWIW.

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    I currently dont have a bipod on an AR, although I use them on other rifles. Im interested in the poll results, so I can buy a bipod, but dont want to taint it by voting.
    anybody wanna help a brother out ?

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    TD ACB

    Voted for what I have...

    But I wouldn't pay list for it, either. I like it for all the aforementioned reasons. Very solid, no wiggle in anything. Feet are metal with tread, so probably better on dirt / vegetation than concrete / hard surfaces.

    Don't like it because it has no quick release features; you need the allen wrench to remove it.

    Weighs right about a pound. Folds up back along the handguard so it isn't sticking out under the barrel to snag or affect balance point as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    CAA, on the whole, does not tend to have the best reputation and seeing their name on something does not generally inspire confidence in that product. FWIW.
    10-4, i don't recall seeing much talk about CAA here, and i wondered if they were small time, or lesser product.
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    I have used the Harris 6"- 9" with swivel and notched legs on a .308 for precision shooting. It is the bipod of choice for most of the precision world that uses a bipod. It is reasonably priced , lightweight, and works well. On an AR I imagine the next size up (9"-13'?) would be better with 30 round mags. Harris makes a quality bipod. The Pod Loc is a noce accessory for the Harris.

    The Atlas went through a long development with tons of input from precision shooters; just search snipershide.com for background. If I were to buy a new bipod it would be an Atlas.
    Last edited by DWood; 01-11-10 at 07:29.

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    I actually did not vote because the only bipods I have any experience with are the Harris bipods. I cannot make a judgement on products I know nothing about.

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    just received a Larue QR/Harris bipod set up from larue.

    the QR and bipod are great but what i was really jazzed about was that in the Larue shipping box, i also found....Larue spice rub for meats, a larue ball cap, stickers and a sweet larue beverage entry tool!

    i actually did have a question on the harris bipod. on the front of the bipod where the quick release mounts to the bipod plate...the welding of the swivel to the baseplate looks like a piece of dried gum holding the thing together. is this how they come? just thought the welding would be a bit cleaner. seems to work great regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTHN2LGS View Post
    I actually did not vote because the only bipods I have any experience with are the Harris bipods. I cannot make a judgement on products I know nothing about.
    Same boat here, only experience with Harris. I like it except for the fact that it's 9"-13" and there's a bit of wiggle when the legs are extended. If I were to buy another one, I'd really like a close look at the Atlas and GG&G bipods.

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    The only AR rifle I have that uses a bipod has a sling swivel built in to the bottom of the rail, retained with a nut on the inside of the rail. You can buy the studs from Brownells and do this yourself to just about any rail - but SWS incorporates a "finished" method.

    I use a Harris bipod, and always have. For field shooting and hunting, I have switched to shooting sticks (primarily), a pack, a truck door/hood/tailgate or anything else that gives the height and steadiness I need.

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    I voted for what I have. Rock Creek SOPMOD w/ raptor claw feet. The only other one I have any experience with is the Harris but never mounted on an AR. I just plain like the SOPMOD better. The Claw feet will shred a shooting bench though. But they work good on the ground. I can plant the feet and pull back on the rifle "loading" it for extra stability. It really is rock solid and it was $Free.99.

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    "Loading" the bipod means pushing forward into the bipod causing it to tighten up.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa5...oncrete_school
    Last edited by DWood; 01-10-10 at 22:50.

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    All of my "target" AR's have round free floating handguards so I have never used a bipod with a special mount.

    The only one I have experience with is Harris. I have three of them and they have all given me good service. One of them is 15 years old and still works like new. The only downside with Harris is the bluing on the knobs, etc. You have to keep them coated with a good oil because they are not resistant to rust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    EXCELLENT post! Do you mind elaborating on why you like the Bobro best? "smooth and stable" I get (even if it's a little subjective) but what, specifically, does it do that the others are lacking?

    That Atlas does look nice. I'm not sure, however, if I understand how the legs deploy and are positioned.
    On the Bobro, their "CTM" or Collapsing Triangle "feature" is what I think lends the stability and positive feel to the bipod. Their marketing literature does a fairly good job of explaining the design:

    "The bipod utilizes Patent Pending CTM (Collapsing Triangle Mechanism) technology to permit deployment without the requirement of control manipulation such as buttons etc. The bipod is deployed by pulling the legs rearward fully until the claw within the clawbox applies pressure to the clawbox post. A conical interface applies constant and even pressure to ensure that the bipod remains positively locked and cannot collapse without Operator input. Having the bipod lock securely and not collapse is the most important feature, and is much safer than a design that permits collapse without dedicated intent. To collapse the bipod, depress the claw pivot and start pushing the leg(s) forward. Once the leg(s) start forward travel, the claw pivot button is released."

    When comparing directly to the Harris, the action is far smoother and more consistent. For example, when you deploy the Harris you are overcoming the inherent spring pressure which retains the bipod up or down. There is a progressive tension that holds its position. The Bobro's tension is still enough to provide resistence to deployment but much less than the Harris. The locking mechanism is also very smooth, the buttons on the legs are pressed to return the bipod to the stowed position. The locking mechanism is also what allows them to use springs with a few pound-ft less tension.

    The leg deployment is also incredibly smooth. I have to use camera tripods as a point of reference. The Bobro feels like a high end Gitzo vs. a Manfrotto. That's not meant as a slam on the Harris or Manfrotto, its just a comparison.

    I wish I would have bought a couple during my first order. The next batch isn't available until May according to the Bobro website.
    http://www.bobroengineering.com/view/product/1/

    Here are some pics on one of my Sage M1A/EBRs. My other Sage has the Tango Down bipod, I don't have any pics of that with me.





    I'll compress and upload pics of my other bipods. I don't have them all with me but the breakdown of what I'm using is as follows:

    Rock Creek SOPMODs on Armalite builds





    VLTOR on PTR91/MSG build
    Tango Down on Mod 1 EBR (I have a black TD to replace the BoBro on the above Mod 0 EBR but I can't bring myself to swap it for the BoBro. I wanted to relocate the BoBro to a Mk12 mod1 but I think I'm going to end up mounting the TD on that rifle)
    Harris/LaRue BRM-S on HS Precision/Remington 700 build


    Atlas on AICS/Remington 700 build

    The Atlas is a totally different bipod design. They are very smooth and well made, I think I have an older version as they now seem to be on version 7. I'm just not 100% sold on the design yet. If I spent more time with that rifle I might change my opinion. Deploying the bipod and changing the settings is not as ergonomic as I would like. There are extra steps in the process, by design (knobs)--and I can see why it was done. But I'm not all the way there yet in terms of falling in love with it. I'd have to let someone with a much higher round count on an Atlas comment. All I can say is they are stable, I like the 45 degree angle option when shooting from sandbags/prone and they are high quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWood View Post
    "Loading" the bipod means pushing forward into the bipod causing it to tighten up.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa5...oncrete_school
    Good to know, Thanks for the link. I have never done any research or training on/with bi-pods. I just sorta thought the word "Loading" was a good way to describe what I was doing, lol. I Just tried Loading it both push and pull, it seems to be just as steady either way, of coarse this is just dry firing on the carpet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1A2_Tanker View Post
    Good to know, Thanks for the link. I have never done any research or training on/with bi-pods. I just sorta thought the word "Loading" was a good way to describe what I was doing, lol. I Just tried Loading it both push and pull, it seems to be just as steady either way, of coarse this is just dry firing on the carpet.
    Understood; pushing the weight forward with the shoulder rather than pulling back with the hands frees the hands for what they need to do.

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    I have no experience with the other brands listed, however I ran a Harris Bi-Pod on my M4 then on my M14 in theater for some time.

    I was using my M4 with TA01-NSN and KAC Can with the weapon acting as a pseudo-SPR HARD for about 4 months of sustained combat ops in Mahmudiyah Iraq.

    I ended up taking it off of my M4 and mounting it on my Sage EBR M14 when I got one of those. It stayed on there for 3 more months and kept on chugging.

    I was always impressed with the durability and quality of the construction of the Bi-Pod. Never once did the legs jam up, or the mechanism fail in anyway whats so ever, and I bashed the hell out of it on numerous occasions. I wish I would have taken a picture of how beat to shit that bi-pod was after all of that abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    The only AR rifle I have that uses a bipod has a sling swivel built in to the bottom of the rail, retained with a nut on the inside of the rail.
    I'm one of those who voted "Other."

    I've got a Harris, and I'm simply using the Harris AR-specific stud in my regular handguard.

    Total cost out-the-door was under $100 ($85 for the bipod on eBay, $10 for the adaptor). It took me about 10 minutes to install the stud.

    As a bonus, for another $10 I bought the M14 adaptor, and for nothing I put another swivel stud on my bolt-action .22. The same bipod will do duty on all three guns...

    I haven't even taken this to the range yet, but so far I like it at a lot.

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    Both Harris and Bobro are good units though both install differently. What do you need it for??
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Katar View Post
    Looking for experiences with bipods for recce/SPR type ARs. Some choices for what gets your vote based on positive experience:
    lol, thought I made it fairly clear that this was about bipod options for SPR/Recce type AR-15s.

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    LaRue/Harris


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