Quote Originally Posted by Defaultmp3 View Post
That's why I think it's pretty dumb to chase Level IV as a civilian that has a much lower threat exposure, as I would imagine the use case to be much closer to something like direct action or self defense, where mobility is key. If you want Level IVs just because, go for it. But if you're being pragmatic at all, I don't see the point as a civilian, given the possible range of threats.
The "possible range of threats" involves those acting under the color of authority. M993 and M995 are not common at all, even to those wearing a uniform. I asked some active duty guys about them some time ago and they were like "Huh?" Granted, these weren't HRT or CAG, so there's that. And yes, I'd agree even Level IV won't stop them. Hell, even the old 7.62 SLAP is like hen's teeth.

So let's say stopping all 7.62 NATO and all 5.56 (with the exceptions of above-mentioned M993, M995, and M80A1......but not M855A1, that needs to be stoppable). Maybe that helps narrow the definition.