My dad's 700bdl, he bought new in the late 70s, started to have issues a few years ago. If you pulled the trigger while the rifle was on safe the rifle would fire when the safety was pushed off and the trigger was not touched.
My dad's 700bdl, he bought new in the late 70s, started to have issues a few years ago. If you pulled the trigger while the rifle was on safe the rifle would fire when the safety was pushed off and the trigger was not touched.
Can you clarify this statement? I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around your description. Do you mean to say that the gun fired when you started to rotate the bolt? Or that the gun fired as you were pushing the round into the chamber.
If it's the former, did the lug break off to allow the bolt to eject?
Thanks in advance.
Here is the old (2010) M4C thread regarding this:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...-to-CNBC/page2
The round was in the chamber and the bolt was being rotated form the 12 o clock position then when it got to about the 2 o clock position it fired and blew the bolt out of the back of the gun.
I after the fact I tired to put the bolt back in- it would not go
Then i tried to put the saftey on fire- it will not go
it appears that the hammer dropped during the rotation of the bolt, while on safe
I have a contact at Remington who is a SF buddy of a SF buddy so more to come on Monday
I friggin' hate hearing this. I, like many others, was also skeptical of the Glock ejection issues...Until I got a Gen 3 19 that peppered my face. As a Army Sniper with thousands of rounds behind the M24, I am half a breath away from picking up a 16.5 AAC-SD, and thought that these stories were all fairy tales as well... Please continue to follow up on this thread and keep us updated. Would a Timney unit solve the issue? It doesn't come with a new safety, so wouldn't the issue remain?
I've watched all of the videos and reports, and still on't understand what's causing it.
Fellow here in Montana lost his son when a Remington 700 misfired and shot the nine-year-old boy. Gus Barber was the subject of some of the news stories linked above. His family has been pursuing the case against Remington for years, collecting a voluminous amount of research. Here's a link to the story in a local paper (http://billingsgazette.com/news/stat...c4b3751ed.html) and here's a YouTube video with the boy's dad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx1_wC2PHwE
There have been a shitload of similar stories and a ton of lawsuits. Document what happened with your rifle, get statements from any witnesses, etc. If nothing else, pick a rifle out of the Remington catalog and offer to sign a non-discloure agreement in exchange for a newer (and hopefully MUCH more expensive) rifle. I'm guessing they'll be more than happy to oblige.
Remington has been fighting these cases for years, dragging them out in litigation and settling when they had to, because it would bankrupt the company to admit the defect, assume liability for damages, and recall the bazillion Model 700 rifles which might be effected.
Glad you're safe and nobody was injured or killed.
This is where I think we have to draw the line. No firearm company should be held responsible for someone else's stupidity and lack of care for their weapons. This is not directed to the OP, but I have read many articles that point to lack of care for the firearm and/or modification without knowing what they are doing. Besides, if general firearm safety is practiced correctly no one should be getting killed.
While this is only anecdotal, third-hand evidence, I have a sniper qualified friend who likes to tell the story of this happening to a student in his class. He was going to be dropped from the course until it happened again to the instructor going over the rifle. I don't know the details though as to wether it was this sort of case or if there was other damage to the rifle. Or if it's a sniper school urban legend.
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