Remember that this is just 4 units, that will be going back to the M4 or commando rifle.
I have heard nothing about any more units dropping the Tavor.
Remember that this is just 4 units, that will be going back to the M4 or commando rifle.
I have heard nothing about any more units dropping the Tavor.
Other than specialized units, isn't the IDF pretty much committed to the Tavor?
Or, to look at it another way: does the IDF get the M4's as part of a foreign aid package or at a substantially better price than it can produce the Tavor? Sometimes money is the main factor.
What are the supposed advantages of the Tavor? Local production vs. import? Bullpup is "better"?
Last edited by Doc Safari; 09-05-18 at 14:48.
Yup, I posted this in another thread, just the one's I can think of off the top of my head:
.... the UK issues their conventional troops the L85 IW bullpup, their SOF units get Colt Canada C8 carbines (a US M4 variant), Aussies issue their conventional troops the STG-77 bullpup while their SOF units get Colt M4's (possibly Colt Canada C8's I forget which), the Kiwis issue their conventional forces the F88 Steyr bullpup and their SOF units like the Aussies get Colt M4's and or Colt Canada C8's.
"In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf
"We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon 10/30/18
IIRC the troops ride to the front in the Merkava or modern equivalent? (I don't know what they use now). That makes sense then that they would want the Tavor for most units.
Tavor provides local jobs.
Not an insignificant factor, and that's why politicians often do not get the "best" for their troops. They opt for what will get them re-elected.
Last edited by Doc Safari; 09-05-18 at 15:45.
Aussie regular forces use F88s. Aussie SOF use Colt M4s.
Kiwis have replaced their F88s with LMTs. Their SOF also use LMTs.
The Merkava can carry, IIRC, only about a half-dozen troops and is really more of an exigent circumstances thing, rather than SOP. The Israelis do have a number of MBTs that have been converted into APCs, including the Namer which is built on the Merkava MkIV chassis/hull. The Israeli military, like most Middle-Eastern militaries, relies heavily on mechanized infantry.
Israel has been subject to international arms embargoes - including by the United States - in the past, so the ability to domestically produce as many of their defense systems as possible has been an on-going concern for Israel.
Last edited by MountainRaven; 09-05-18 at 15:52.
" Nil desperandum - Never Despair. That is a motto for you and me. All are not dead; and where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it. "
- Samuel Adams -
Prior to the whole arm brace pistol evolution, the Bullpup was the easiest way to get a short rifle caliber weapon.
I own a Tavor and one day for fun want to make a real short X95 in 300 blk.
But for anti terror work give me a Commando type rifle.
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