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    Think about it....woken up at 3am out of deep sleep..no...you might not immediately have the fine motor skills to flick off that tiny safety. You are trying to catch your snap and probably get on your feet...you might only have seconds. A safety or de-cocker is just one more thing to fool with.

    What is hard to understand about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brickboy240 View Post
    Think about it....woken up at 3am out of deep sleep..no...you might not immediately have the fine motor skills to flick off that tiny safety. You are trying to catch your snap and probably get on your feet...you might only have seconds. A safety or de-cocker is just one more thing to fool with.

    What is hard to understand about that?

    -brickboy240

    I think I understand what you're saying. Piss poor training leads to piss poor performance. Another reason why BoringGuy45 (and many others) try and advocate the taking of at least 'a' firearms class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brickboy240 View Post
    Think about it....woken up at 3am out of deep sleep..no...you might not immediately have the fine motor skills to flick off that tiny safety. You are trying to catch your snap and probably get on your feet...you might only have seconds. A safety or de-cocker is just one more thing to fool with.

    What is hard to understand about that?

    -brickboy240
    Like I said if you are so groggy that you do not have the alertness to flick the safety lever(which is generally right at your thumb and easily accessible) then how do you plan to line up your sights, identify your target, identify what is behind your target, and then engage the target, then control the recoil of the handgun to line up a consecutive shot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    Like I said if you are so groggy that you do not have the alertness to flick the safety lever(which is generally right at your thumb and easily accessible) then how do you plan to line up your sights, identify your target, identify what is behind your target, and then engage the target, then control the recoil of the handgun to line up a consecutive shot?
    From a safety perspective, I agree. From a reality perspective, nothing or few things ever happen as planned. Especially as the "victim" of a home invasion scenario. If you're going to go through that criteria as a required list before engaging every time, you'll probably find yourself losing.

    The best bet is early detection and alert measures so that you aren't surprised by the first punch or stab. Remarkably cheap and effective, with the pistol/gun playing only a portion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    Okay, something that some customers say that absolutely drives me nuts: "I need a gun with a safety because I have kids in the house." Wait, are you telling me that you plan to leave a loaded firearm laying around unsecured because you think that a kid can't figure out how to work a safety? In some cases, the answer to that is yes. I told customers, after getting a request for a gun w/ a safety to keep their kids safe, that they plan on keeping it loaded and in a nightstand drawer with the safety on. I try to warn them: You might want to keep it unloaded and in some kind of locked container if you have kids in the house. Then, I get the reply, "No, I'm kind of on a budget and can't afford a safe. That's why I need a gun with a safety."

    When I hear this, I just want to say, "You do not have the intelligence or common sense to own a weapon. Please leave." In cases like this, I DO usually stall and try to suggest that maybe they should take some gun safety courses before they purchase a weapon. A lot of times, that actually works, thank God.

    We wonder why the anti-gunners are always using the "You're more likely to shoot yourself or a family member than a bad guy," argument; it's because for many, that's completely true.
    As noble as your intentions were, the reality is the guy left with the following thought in his head, "That douchebag needs to get off his high horse and quit being a blowhard. I can get it cheaper at Dick's Sporting goods anyway..."
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    I hear most of these constantly.

    Quote Originally Posted by ca_fireman19 View Post
    As noble as your intentions were, the reality is the guy left with the following thought in his head, "That douchebag needs to get off his high horse and quit being a blowhard. I can get it cheaper at Dick's Sporting goods anyway..."
    It's sad but true. After 10 years of working at gun stores I've learned its just not worth trying to correct customers and their misconceptions. You can offer friendly advice and some will take it, but most will do exactly what you posted because no one wants to hear they are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ca_fireman19 View Post
    As noble as your intentions were, the reality is the guy left with the following thought in his head, "That douchebag needs to get off his high horse and quit being a blowhard. I can get it cheaper at Dick's Sporting goods anyway..."
    Fine with me. If he won't listen to me, or refuses to consider safety classes, I've potentially saved myself and my store from a lawsuit when I sold the guy the gun with the safety and implied (by not arguing with him) that his idea of safety was perfectly valid, after his kid shoots himself. I'll let Dick's or Cabelas get the lawsuit. They have more money than us anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    Fine with me. If he won't listen to me, or refuses to consider safety classes, I've potentially saved myself and my store from a lawsuit when I sold the guy the gun with the safety and implied (by not arguing with him) that his idea of safety was perfectly valid, after his kid shoots himself. I'll let Dick's or Cabelas get the lawsuit. They have more money than us anyway.
    To be honest it would be a real trick for that guy to buy a pistol at Dicks. Last few stores I've been in they never had any. All their lower display cases were filled with "high" dollar optics.

    Now, Cabela's and Bass Pro, sure, if he run into an employee that doesn't give a damn they might sell a pistol to that guy. I can tell you from personal experience selling firearms from the inside of a major corporation that part of the training they give you is determining when to say no to a customer wanting to buy a firearm. It has nothing to do with Federal laws, just has to do with common sense, you have the right to tell a customer that you won't sell the firearm based on how they act while holding it or what they say. Sort of go's along with preventing straw purchasing.
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    Picked up a FFL transfer at my LGS and the guy behind the counter started insulting everything about it.

    Seems like a sure formula for keeping customers around.


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    So taking a firearm off safe is a fine motor skill now? hahaha. Ok.

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